Jon wrote: "So there appears to be a dual ordering, the concentric circles at the base of the structure (122914-1) subsume logic within ethics and ethics within aesthetics while the vertical ascent gives logic a perspective over all and ethics its oversight on aesthetics."
An interesting insight. Can it be that (122914-1) is true because of the GEOMETRY of the circular cone covering three concentric circular cylinders ? With all the best. Sung On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Jon Awbrey <[email protected]> wrote: > JBD:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15230 > JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15235 > SJ:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15236 > JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15237 > JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15238 > JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15239 > HR:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15240 > JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15241 > HR:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15243 > JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15244 > HR:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15246 > JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15252 > SJ:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15268 > > Sung, > > I originally drew that figure as a kind of mandala or mnemonic device to > help me sort through some of the more commonly observed puzzles about the > relationships among the classical normative sciences -- aesthetics, ethics, > and logic -- whose objects are respectively beauty, goodness (in the sense > of duty, justice, morality, propriety, right action, or virtue), and truth. > > See Figure : http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-October/000879.html > > I think most people tend to be a bit surprised on first encounter with > Peirce's idea that logic waits on ethics and ethics waits on aesthetics in > some order of precedence that may as yet be hard to pin down. This is > probably due to the fact that most of us have been brought up in a > tradition that treats logic, whether in the exalted sense of Universal > Reason or the more narrow sense of deductive reasoning, as the royal road > to knowledge. And yet there is something to the idea that logic affords a > critical perspective on ethics and aesthetics while an eye to justice can > never be far removed from a vision of harmony. > > So there appears to be a dual ordering, the concentric circles at the base > of the structure subsume logic within ethics and ethics within aesthetics > while the vertical ascent gives logic a perspective over all and ethics its > oversight on aesthetics. > > In the upshot this may just be another one of those realms where the > complexity of interrelations and mutual recursions among the provinces puts > the kibosh on all our notions of simple alliances. > > Regards, > > Jon > > Sungchul Ji wrote: > >> Dear Jon, >> >> The circular cone you used to represent the relationship among logic, >> ethics and aesthetics (called the pragmatic cosmos) (reproduced below) >> reminded me of my own "conic theory of everything (CTE)" that I >> proposed in 2012 (see the figure attached). >> >> You capitalized the surface of the circular cone as the boundary of >> the three circular cylinders, each representing aesthetics, ethics, or >> logic, In contrast, I viewed the circular cone as the combination two >> types of triangles -- (i) triangles lying on the base of the circular >> cone (called the 'epistemological triads') and (ii) the triangles >> standing perpendicularly on the base of the cone (called 'ontological >> triads') with their apexes converging at one point, i.e., the apex of >> the circular cone. >> >> Besides the features of the circular cone that are utilized in the >> pragmatic cosmos and the "conic theory of everything," I am sure there >> are other geometric features of this object that may be useful in >> representing some other fundamental ideas in sciences and philosophy. >> >> >> With all the best. >> >> >> Sung >> >> > -- > > academia: http://independent.academia.edu/JonAwbrey > my word press blog: http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/ > inquiry list: http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/ > isw: http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/JLA > oeiswiki: http://www.oeis.org/wiki/User:Jon_Awbrey > facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/JonnyCache > -- Sungchul Ji, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Pharmacology and Toxicology Department of Pharmacology and Toxicology Ernest Mario School of Pharmacy Rutgers University Piscataway, N.J. 08855 732-445-4701 www.conformon.net
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