Sung,

As fond as I may be of the idea that “God Ever Geometrizes” I'm afraid I will 
have to leave that conical question open in all three directions.

Regards,

Jon

http://inquiryintoinquiry.com

> On Dec 29, 2014, at 1:35 PM, Sungchul Ji <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Jon wrote:
> 
> "So there appears to be a dual ordering, the concentric circles at the base 
> of the structure                   (122914-1)
> subsume logic within ethics and ethics within aesthetics while the vertical 
> ascent gives logic 
> a perspective over all and ethics its oversight on aesthetics."
> 
> An interesting insight.
> 
> Can it be that (122914-1) is true because of the GEOMETRY of the circular 
> cone covering three concentric circular cylinders ?
> 
> With all the best.
> 
> Sung
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Jon Awbrey <[email protected]> wrote:
>> JBD:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15230
>> JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15235
>> SJ:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15236
>> JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15237
>> JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15238
>> JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15239
>> HR:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15240
>> JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15241
>> HR:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15243
>> JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15244
>> HR:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15246
>> JA:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15252
>> SJ:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15268
>> 
>> Sung,
>> 
>> I originally drew that figure as a kind of mandala or mnemonic device to 
>> help me sort through some of the more commonly observed puzzles about the 
>> relationships among the classical normative sciences -- aesthetics, ethics, 
>> and logic -- whose objects are respectively beauty, goodness (in the sense 
>> of duty, justice, morality, propriety, right action, or virtue), and truth.
>> 
>> See Figure : http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2003-October/000879.html
>> 
>> I think most people tend to be a bit surprised on first encounter with 
>> Peirce's idea that logic waits on ethics and ethics waits on aesthetics in 
>> some order of precedence that may as yet be hard to pin down.  This is 
>> probably due to the fact that most of us have been brought up in a tradition 
>> that treats logic, whether in the exalted sense of Universal Reason or the 
>> more narrow sense of deductive reasoning, as the royal road to knowledge.  
>> And yet there is something to the idea that logic affords a critical 
>> perspective on ethics and aesthetics while an eye to justice can never be 
>> far removed from a vision of harmony.
>> 
>> So there appears to be a dual ordering, the concentric circles at the base 
>> of the structure subsume logic within ethics and ethics within aesthetics 
>> while the vertical ascent gives logic a perspective over all and ethics its 
>> oversight on aesthetics.
>> 
>> In the upshot this may just be another one of those realms where the 
>> complexity of interrelations and mutual recursions among the provinces puts 
>> the kibosh on all our notions of simple alliances.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>> Sungchul Ji wrote:
>>> Dear Jon,
>>> 
>>> The circular cone you used to represent the relationship among logic,
>>> ethics and aesthetics (called the pragmatic cosmos) (reproduced below)
>>> reminded me of my own "conic theory of everything (CTE)" that I
>>> proposed in 2012 (see the figure attached).
>>> 
>>> You capitalized the surface of the circular cone as the boundary of
>>> the three circular cylinders, each representing aesthetics, ethics, or
>>> logic, In contrast, I viewed the circular cone as the combination two
>>> types of triangles -- (i) triangles lying on the base of the circular
>>> cone (called the 'epistemological triads') and (ii) the triangles
>>> standing perpendicularly on the base of the cone (called 'ontological
>>> triads') with their apexes converging at one point, i.e., the apex of
>>> the circular cone.
>>> 
>>> Besides the features of the circular cone that are utilized in the
>>> pragmatic cosmos and the "conic theory of everything," I am sure there
>>> are other geometric features of this object that may be useful in
>>> representing some other fundamental ideas in sciences and philosophy.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> With all the best.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sung
>> 
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> 
> 
> -- 
> Sungchul Ji, Ph.D.
> 
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> Department of Pharmacology and Toxicology
> Ernest Mario School of Pharmacy
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