Howard,

It's not just my instinct, it's Peirce's that there's something strange about an equivalence between where one _/seems/_ to formulate talk of one thing and where one _/seems/_ to formulate talk of possibly two things.

The problem is that symbolic logic requires us to contract ideas into concentrated forms where we tend to forget some of the structure of alternatives in them. Deductive logic and related fields such as probability theory can be peculiarly tricky, a bit _Twilight Zone_-ish at times, because they are specially about abstract structures of alternatives, alternatives among universes in a sense, rather than about structures of, /per se/, space, measure, group, or order. Also, conveniences of logical verbal expression can require a little getting used to (e.g., 'some' is usually taken in the sense of 'at least some'; and, very notably, 'if /p/ then /q/' just means 'not both /p/ and not /q/' because logicians don't like to invent funny expressions like "/p/ nandn't /q/" or "/p/ nayor /q/" to say it instead).

First-order logic with identity and with axiomatic completeness can distinguish 'at least one,' 'at most one,' 'exactly one,' 'at least two,' 'at most two,' 'exactly two,' etc., and I've read that it allows time expressions (e.g., where one treats "Jack at /t/₁" as an object, or something like that). I'm no logician, but I think that one could allow numeric predicates as in '5/xyzwu/'; I don't know whether they can be indefinite (even if still finite) in valence without losing axiomatic completeness (i.e., moving us into 2nd-order logic), and to treat them as variables would require 2nd-order logic at least, I think.

If you want to make good on the instinctive sense that the 'strange rule' should be avoidable, other than by thinking of veiled or unknown constants (amounting to 2nd-order variables much like Quine's "dummy letters" in schemata for 1st-order logic), then you'll need some sort of modal logic (of the 2nd-order kind, I think), or branching quantifiers logic (2nd-order), or some other area in 2nd-order logic. More generally, if that which Poincaré desired was really mathematics, then why did he complain? He already has lots of it. Axiomatically complete, first-order logic with identity is about all things in a sense, but its completeness of axioms keeps it from being powerful enough to be all things useful to theory. Think of it as a sandbox.

Best, Ben

On 2/14/2015 11:19 PM, Howard Pattee wrote:

At 09:30 PM 2/14/2015, Benjamin Udell wrote:

The strange rule really isn't so strange. In CP 4.569 Peirce (without calling it the 'strange rule') says: "The logical Principle is that to say that there is some one individual of which one or other of two predicates is true is no more than to say that there either is some individual of which one is true or else there is some individual of which the other is true."

HP: This "strange rule" illustrates Poincaré's criticism of logic as an impoverishment of natural language that can neither count nor tell time.

BU: In other words, 'there is something round or blue' is equivalent to 'there is something round or there is something blue'. It seems kind of strange because in the first case one seems to mention one individual thing, while in the second case one seems to mention possibly two things.

HP: I think Ben's instinct is correct. It is indeed strange that the difference between two different numbers, like one and two, are ignored. Only using logic rules is such indifference possible. The past and future succumb to the same logical indifference.

Howard

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