John: you write:

> I limit myself to dynamic structures.
>  


then:

. I use it in the physical, not the mathematical sense.

Your "very simple answer" is precisely why I find your thinking to be 
superficial.
Your usage is NOT in the PHYSICAL sense.

Your ignore the deep and fundamental conundrum that exists in physical thought 
and representation of nature and the concept of force.  It is not a unitary 
concept.  Force is at least a triadic concept, and perhaps a fouth or fifth 
order concepts.  The multiple concepts of force are a consequence of physical 
measurements.  

Your views of physical representation of force are more than two centuries out 
of date.

This conundrum is the profound dynamical difference origins in the difference 
between Newton's Law and  Coulomb's law.

Your response is not good physics, not good science, not persuasive and 
certainly not  compelling.

IMNSHO

Cheers

Jerry


On Apr 27, 2015, at 9:02 AM, John Collier wrote:

> The answer is very simple, Jerry. We can interact only with dynamical 
> structures (at least obeying Newton’s third law), so they are the only things 
> that could conceivably make a difference to experience (pragmatic maxim). 
> Perhaps we mean something different by “dynamical”. I use it in the physical, 
> not the mathematical sense.
>  
> John
>  
> From: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: April 27, 2015 10:58 AM
> To: Peirce-L
> Cc: John Collier
> Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] RE: [biosemiotics:8468] Re: Natural Propositions,
>  
> John:
>  
> On Apr 27, 2015, at 8:24 AM, John Collier wrote:
> 
> 
> I limit myself to dynamic structures.
>  
> Why?
>  
> Such an assertion indicates to me that your thinking is superficial.
>  
> As I have noted before, it is attempting to work a cross-word puzzle by using 
> only the "across" clues.  Why does the puzzle writer give you the "down" 
> clues?
>  
> Or, on a mathematical plane, attempting to solve partial differential 
> equations without defining the variables.
>  
> Or, studying human physiology without a knowledge of anatomy.
>  
> Or, studying evolutionary theory without DNA.
>  
>  
> Cheers
>  
> Jerry
>  
>  
>  
>   
>  
> 
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