I'd agree with Ben; I don't think the list can be reduced to 'any and all 
topics'. It's a Peircean list. 

Sung, I suggest that your assertions that because we 'think, write and speak in 
signs' and that Peircean research was 'devoted to signs'...that your subsequent 
conclusion that 'any topics that we 'think, write and speak' are therefore 
valid on a Peircean list is a logical fallacy of circular reasoning. You've 
reduced the meaning of 'sign' to emptiness. 

As for Stephen and his matriarchal/patriarchal claims, my view is that they are 
analytically incorrect; I consider that he has ignored the economic mode and 
societal infrastructure as primarily causal of both these modes of organization 
(matriarchy/patriarchy) - but, since these factors are neither Peircean nor 
even semiosic, then, I have no intention of getting into a debate on this list.

But I do acknowledge Stephen Rose's post - for often, even when a post states 
that it is Peircean related - this relation may be as invalid as Sung's 
illogical claim above - or, as well, a few posters seem isolate-in-themselves, 
speaking only for and about their own focus. This can result in a monologue or 
a dialogue engaged in only by one other person. That's what the 'delete' button 
is for.

Edwina
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Benjamin Udell 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 6:17 PM
  Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] More on applying theory - culture, projection


  Sung, all,

  Your post implies that we should emulate Peirce to a T but we can't emulate 
Peirce to a T because we aren't Peirce. PEIRCE-L is for Peirce-related 
discussion. Peirce himself was not focused on 'Peirce-related' discussion. 
Instead those who carry on prolonged, multi-post discussions of a given topic 
should clarify and thematize the topic's relation to Peirce because that is 
what is promised to subscribers and that is what most subscribers expect.

  That has been and will continue to be the policy of peirce-l.

  Best, Ben Udell as co-manager, peirce-l.

  On 7/2/2015 5:42 PM, Sungchul Ji wrote:

    Bev, Gary, lists, 


    I agree with Bev, because Peirce's whole career was devoted to the study of 
signs and "Peirce-related" is thus "sign-related", it seems to me.  Besides, as 
I learned it from Peirce, we THINK, WRITE, and SPEAK in SIGNS, and hence 
whatever we post on these lists should be regarded as Peirce-related in one way 
or another, including linguistic texts, chemical equations, mathematical 
formulas, network diagrams, pictures, and whatever else that may emerge in the 
future as NEW means of communication and representation through the Internet.


    In other words, for me, semiotics is not yet closed.  Its future should not 
be confined to studying MACRO-SEMIOTICS as constructed by Poinsot, Peirce, and 
others but should be open to studying both MICRO-SEMIOTICS as currently being 
developed in biosemiotics (.e.g., DNA as a molecular sign) and what may be 
called 'COSMO-SEMIOTICS' as may be developed in the future (e.g., viewing 
spiral galaxies as cosmological signs). Imagine what fantastic syntheses in 
philosophy Pierce's genius might be accomplishing now were he alive today ! 


    All the best.


    Sung


    On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Bev Corwin <[email protected]> wrote:

      I enjoy all of the discussions and would prefer more broad than 
restrictive frameworks. I consider restricting discussions as more technocratic 
tactic / approach and not Perice related in style. 


      Bev




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