Clark, Jeffrey, List:

Allow me to expand on the nature of my ignorance of the meaning of degeneracy.

Clearly, CSP's usage of this term with respect to mathematical objects, that is 
conic sections, is crisp and meaningful within the Pythagorean-Cartesian 
perspective of relations.  Jeff's reference is crisp and, of course, well known 
within the scientific community. 

In this case, the generacy, which must be antecedent to the degeneracy, is also 
clear.  The two lines cross or they do not cross.  If they cross, then a new 
object is generated, a cone and it mirror image.  And this diagram plays a 
critical role in the physics of the Minkowski's "space-time" debacle. 

My feeling is that this notion of "degeneracy" is difficult, if not 
intractable, when applied to ordinary linguistic terms which do not imply a 
"crossing" or parallelism.  
Another example is, of course, chemical atoms or molecules.  

I feel a different notion for generating functions is necessary both chemistry 
and biology..

However, from:
On Dec 16, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Clark Goble wrote:

> But the relations of
> reason and these self-relations are alike in this, that they arise from the
> mind setting one part of a notion into relation to another. All degenerate
> seconds may be conveniently termed internal, in contrast to external
> seconds, which are constituted by external fact, and are true actions of one
> thing upon another. (CP 1.365 (1890))

one get's a better notion of the concept I was missing.

Here, CSP brings the concepts of internal and external, also known as intrinsic 
and extrinsic properties in physical-chemical textbooks. 

As I understand this quote, CSP is contrasting the relations of reason (logic?) 
with the relation that everything has with itself, namely, it identity.  In 
other words, the "intrinsic properties" in physical - chemical terms.

A curious conjecture emerges from CSP's views.  
Thus, one could conjecture that the relations of reason and external properties 
are percepts of thermodynamics.  Further, that the self-relations of identity 
are the antecepts of quantum mechanics. 

Amusing to think about.  Any other conjectures of interest?

A bit of light has been cast on whatever CSP may have intended. 

Cheers

Jerry






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