Thanks for your patience Edwina, I dislike political correctness, too.
OK, if your objection is that it lacks a middle term, then C is the middle term because starting with the premise, B = surprise or suspect, B (surprise) is C A is C Therefore, B (suspicious) is A Will this do other than whether you agree on B = surprise or suspect? Thanks again, Jerry R On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 7:47 PM, Edwina Taborsky <[email protected]> wrote: > No, it is not a syllogism. It lacks a middle term. > > Again, to use the basic syllogistic example: > > All men are wise > Socrates is a man > Therefore, Socrates is wise. > > Three terms: Socrates; man; wise. > Note that the middle term of 'man' appears in both the major and minor > premises. Your IF-THEN proposition does not have a middle term. > > Your attempt to say that *he is transformed by the argument* [Note: I > dislike political correctness; the pronoun 'he' is gender neutral'] doesn't > introduce a third term. > > And > > Your example has no middle term. Furthermore, it has FOUR terms: > A, C, surprise, suspicious. > There's no such thing as a four-term syllogism. [Fallacy of Four Terms] > > Edwina > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jerry Rhee <[email protected]> > *To:* Edwina Taborsky <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Peirce-L <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Saturday, April 23, 2016 8:25 PM > *Subject:* Re: [PEIRCE-L] Is CP 5.189 a syllogism? > > Thanks Edwina, > > Is that the only objection? > > So, the thing I think Peirce intended is that (surprise, suspect) is the > third term, because a person (B) is surprised or suspicious. That person > is the same, that is, one person but she is transformed during the argument. > > So, > > Surprise is C > A is C > Therefore, Suspicious is A > > Does that work? > > Thanks, > Jerry R > > > On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Edwina Taborsky <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> No, it is not a syllogism. A syllogism has THREE terms. Your example has >> two. A syllogism is in the format of >> Major Premise >> Minor Premise >> Conclusion >> >> All M is P >> S is M >> Therefore S is P >> -------------------------------------------------- >> Your example is in the form of Propositional Logic, or IF-THEN logic. >> >> If p then q >> p >> Therefore q >> >> Or, If A then C >> A >> Therefore C >> This is called the *modus ponens*. >> >> So, it would be >> IF A is true, then C is a matter of course >> [I surmise that] A is true >> Therefore, C is a matter of course. >> >> Edwina >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Jerry Rhee <[email protected]> >> *To:* Peirce-L <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Saturday, April 23, 2016 7:12 PM >> *Subject:* [PEIRCE-L] Is CP 5.189 a syllogism? >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I'm trying to figure something out. I've convinced myself but am not >> completely sure, so would like to work this out with the community. >> >> I haven't read Aristotle. Are there steadfast rules to syllogism one >> must never ever break or is there an essence? What is the intention of >> syllogism? >> >> Would you say the following is a syllogism? Why or why not? >> >> The surprising fact, C, is observed. >> But if A were true, C would be a matter of course. >> Hence, there is reason to suspect that A is true. >> >> Thanks for any input, >> Jerry Rhee >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> ----------------------------- >> PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON >> PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to >> [email protected] . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L >> but to [email protected] with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the >> BODY of the message. More at >> http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce-l/peirce-l.htm . >> >> >> >> >> >
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