Clark, List:

Moore has edited two volumes that may be of interest--*Philosophy of
Mathematics:  Selected Writings* with Peirce's own stuff, and *New Essays
on Peirce's Mathematical Philosophy* with contributions from various people
including Hookway and Moore.

Regards,

Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman
www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:30 PM, CLARK GOBLE <cl...@lextek.com> wrote:
>
> On Jan 9, 2017, at 8:35 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt <jonalanschm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> CG:  I agree that this definitely tends to make nominalism self-refuting
> which I see as a problem rather than a strength.
>
>
> A problem for nominalism or for realism?  Is it legitimate for a
> nominalist to deny that holding everything real to be singular is
> self-contradictory, on the grounds that singularity is not a property?  (I
> am having that very argument with a self-professed nominalist in another
> context right now.)
>
> I think arguments with that level of circularity are pointless whether it
> be for realism, nominalism, materialism or whatever. All it really means is
> you’ve injected your assumptions in so alternatives are self-refuting.
> Which isn’t much of an argument.
>
> A stronger argument for realism to me is always the argument that the
> fundamental laws of physics are necessary for there to be anything.
> Effectively that’s what Krauss does in his book *A Universe from Nothing* 
> although
> he isn’t quite philosophically sophisticated enough to realize that’s what
> he’s doing. Once you require immaterial laws of physics to make everything
> work, then you’re unable to really take a strong nominalist stand. It’s not
> a knock down argument of course. For instance several people have noted
> that if you start with objects with certain properties you can derive the
> laws of thermodynamics and a lot else just from their symmetries. So that’s
> a more nominalist argument but doesn’t work with quantum mechanics.
>
> None of these arguments are fully persuasive to someone skeptical. But I
> suspect that’s true of any metaphysical argument which almost by necessity
> has to be weak. I think Peirce has an answer there with his process of
> inquiry. What we can’t doubt as a practical matter we hold as true. We just
> need to investigate all the arguments, look at the alternatives with as
> open an eye as possible, and then see what we believe that persists through
> inquiry. Again, far from perfect but probably the best we can do.
>
> CG:   I assume he’s somewhat platonic about mathematical objects. That is
> more akin to Godel than the logicists or the constructivists. Yet honestly
> if someone told me he was a logicist or a constructivist I’d not be at all
> shocked either.
>
>
> I am not that familiar with the alternatives, but Christopher Hookway,
> Matthew Moore, and others seem to think that his views--especially his
> emphasis on diagrammatic reasoning--are closest to mathematical
> structuralism.  As with other sciences, he was more interested in the
> *methods *of mathematicians than the *objects *of their investigations.
>
> I’ll confess I don’t quite have as good a grasp on mathematical
> structuralism as I do logicism, intuitionalism, platonism or
> constructivism. Reviewing the SEP and wikipedia it does sound a lot like
> Peirce (real but not necessarily actual). It also sounds a bit like
> Armstrong Universals.
>
> But thanks for pointing that out. I’ve honestly not read up on foundations
> in mathematics since college and we didn’t study structuralism then. I have
> my evening’s reading set out for me.
>
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