Edwina, List: At the risk of pressing our luck, since we have already unexpectedly identified at least two points of agreement today, I would like to revisit (selectively) some comments that I posted yesterday.
CSP: A *Representamen *is the First Correlate of a triadic relation, the Second Correlate being termed its *Object*, and the possible Third Correlate being termed its *Interpretant*, by which triadic relation the possible Interpretant is determined to be the First Correlate of the same triadic relation to the same Object, and for some possible Interpretant. (EP 2:290, emphases in original; 1903) Notice that Peirce twice characterized the Interpretant as "possible"; here is a second passage that touches on that. CSP: Namely, while no Representamen *actually *functions as such until it *actually *determines an Interpretant, yet it becomes a Representamen as soon as it is fully *capable *of doing this; and its Representative Quality is not necessarily dependent upon its ever *actually *determining an Interpretant, nor even upon its *actually *having an Object. (CP 2.275, emphases added; c. 1902) My understanding is thus that every Sign/Representamen has an *Immediate *Object and determines an *Immediate *Interpretant, because those are real possibilities that are *internal *to it; but evidently there might be such a thing as a Sign/Representamen that has no *Dynamic *Object and/or (especially) determines no *Dynamic *Interpretant, because those are *external *to it. I wonder if recognizing these distinctions--possible vs. actual, and internal vs. external--could be a way to reconcile "the Sign as triad" (with Immediate Object/Interpretant) and "the Sign as one correlate of a triadic relation" (with Dynamic Object/Interpretant). What do you think? Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt
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