Dear Jon, Stephen, List:

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*Ben Novak*
5129 Taylor Drive, Ave Maria, FL 34142
Telephone: (814) 808-5702

*"All art is mortal, **not merely the individual artifacts, but the arts
themselves.* *One day the last portrait of Rembrandt* *and the last bar of
Mozart will have ceased to be—**though possibly a colored canvas and a
sheet of notes may remain—**because the last eye and the last ear
accessible to their message **will have gone." *Oswald Spengler

On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Stephen C. Rose <[email protected]> wrote:

> Shekdrake mentions Peirce in his banned TED talk but pm;y in passing. I
> feel Peirce and Wittgenstein were saying much the same thing in very
> different ways. Nietzsche can probably be included in terms of
> 20th-century influence.
>
> amazon.com/author/stephenrose
>
> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 6:55 AM, Ben Novak <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dear Jon, Stephen:
>>
>> I would like to propose another question, related to the ones raised by
>> Jon, for the List's consideration; namely:
>>
>> What is the relation of Peirce's ideas, insights, or procedures to the
>> work of other twentieth century philosophers and philosophic
>> questions--whether or not there is evidence of direct contact?
>>
>> For example, there has been significant discussion on various threads of
>> the concept of nothing, and existence, among others. I have often felt that
>> these discussions are directly relevant to much of the work of twentieth
>> century existentialists. I am particularly interested in Heidegger, and
>> feel that there are many concepts of Heidegger that would be enriched by
>> meshing them with Pierce, and vice versa.
>>
>> For example, I think that discussion of the thought of Peirce in relation
>> to the thought of many other, later philosophers, might provide the basis
>> of a very fertile synthesis of Continental and American philosophy.
>>
>> From another angle, there are many philosophers attempting to deal with
>> the results of quantum physics who are dealing with ideas that could be
>> much clarified by Peirce's thinking.  Attached is a pdf of a book review of
>> mine in the *Review of Metaphysics* reviewing Peter J. Lewis,* Quantum
>> Ontology: A Guide to the Metaphysics of Quantum Mechanics,* in which I
>> attempt to convey the challenge to philosophers raised by Lewis. In that
>> review I mention Bernard d'Espagnat's *Quantum Physics and Philosophy*,
>> which in my view raises a host of issues that Peirce's thinking would deal
>> with differently.
>>
>> In other words, I would like to see some discussion by participants on
>> this thread of other disciplines, philosophers, and philosophies that are
>> wrestling with problems or ideas that Peirce dealt with, from the
>> perspective of helping others by showing how Peirce's thought could clarify
>> or extend what they are dealing with.
>>
>> Ben Novak
>>
>>
>>
>> *Ben Novak*
>> 5129 Taylor Drive, Ave Maria, FL 34142
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=5129+Taylor+Drive,+Ave+Maria,+FL+34142&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Telephone: (814) 808-5702
>>
>> *"All art is mortal, **not merely the individual artifacts, but the arts
>> themselves.* *One day the last portrait of Rembrandt* *and the last bar
>> of Mozart will have ceased to be—**though possibly a colored canvas and
>> a sheet of notes may remain—**because the last eye and the last ear
>> accessible to their message **will have gone." *Oswald Spengler
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Stephen C. Rose <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I shall be interested. I amend my widely discredited remark. I am sure
>>> there was some dissing of Brent but I cannot place it. I did find a few
>>> positive notes that related to a quote from Benjamin on page 19 professing
>>> the existence of the deity. Neither of the two folks involved has been here
>>> of late. It might be interesting if some who read here have questions to
>>> see if we could move past the sort of exegetical questions that arise from
>>> analyzing passages.
>>>
>>> amazon.com/author/stephenrose
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stephen, List:
>>>>
>>>> These are outstanding questions, in my view worthy of their own
>>>> thread.  I may offer a few answers after some "chewing" on my own.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
>>>> Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman
>>>> www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 4:32 PM, Stephen C. Rose <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> These are some issues we might chew on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does Pierce's influence extend beyond the academy?
>>>>>
>>>>> Did Peirce see ethics and aesthetics as essential to triadic thinking?
>>>>> Did he intend his philosophy to have wide influence beyond the scientific
>>>>> community?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any public intellectuals who have depended on Peirce.
>>>>>
>>>>> In what sense, if any, was Peirce critical of "binary thinking?
>>>>>
>>>>> When Peirce compared himself to Aristotle was he looking to have
>>>>> universal influence? Does he?
>>>>>
>>>>> How did Peirce wish his thinking to evolve? Or did he?
>>>>>
>>>>> Given the fact that the Brent bio. seems sidely discredited, is a new
>>>>> biography likely?
>>>>>
>>>>> amazon.com/author/stephenrose
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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