I discuss Peirce’s implicit prediction of the order of language evolution (somewhat nonstandard view of indexes perhaps), in a TEDx talk given recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFxg5vkaPgk
And in this recent book, for a general audience: https://www.amazon.com/How-Language-Began-Humanitys-Invention/dp/0871407957 Dan ************************* Daniel L. Everett Dean of Arts and Sciences Bentley University – Morison 308 175 Forest Street Waltham, MA 02452 T: 781.891.2188 F: 781.891.2125 http://daneverettbooks.com "Very few books on the biological and cultural origin of humanity can be ranked as classics. I believe that Daniel L. Everett’s How Language Began will be one of them.” - Edward O. Wilson, University Research Professor Emeritus, Harvard University On Dec 9, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Stephen C. Rose <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Shekdrake mentions Peirce in his banned TED talk but pm;y in passing. I feel Peirce and Wittgenstein were saying much the same thing in very different ways. Nietzsche can probably be included in terms of 20th-century influence. amazon.com/author/stephenrose<http://amazon.com/author/stephenrose> On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 6:55 AM, Ben Novak <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Dear Jon, Stephen: I would like to propose another question, related to the ones raised by Jon, for the List's consideration; namely: What is the relation of Peirce's ideas, insights, or procedures to the work of other twentieth century philosophers and philosophic questions--whether or not there is evidence of direct contact? For example, there has been significant discussion on various threads of the concept of nothing, and existence, among others. I have often felt that these discussions are directly relevant to much of the work of twentieth century existentialists. I am particularly interested in Heidegger, and feel that there are many concepts of Heidegger that would be enriched by meshing them with Pierce, and vice versa. For example, I think that discussion of the thought of Peirce in relation to the thought of many other, later philosophers, might provide the basis of a very fertile synthesis of Continental and American philosophy. From another angle, there are many philosophers attempting to deal with the results of quantum physics who are dealing with ideas that could be much clarified by Peirce's thinking. Attached is a pdf of a book review of mine in the Review of Metaphysics reviewing Peter J. Lewis, Quantum Ontology: A Guide to the Metaphysics of Quantum Mechanics, in which I attempt to convey the challenge to philosophers raised by Lewis. In that review I mention Bernard d'Espagnat's Quantum Physics and Philosophy, which in my view raises a host of issues that Peirce's thinking would deal with differently. In other words, I would like to see some discussion by participants on this thread of other disciplines, philosophers, and philosophies that are wrestling with problems or ideas that Peirce dealt with, from the perspective of helping others by showing how Peirce's thought could clarify or extend what they are dealing with. Ben Novak Ben Novak 5129 Taylor Drive, Ave Maria, FL 34142<https://maps.google.com/?q=5129+Taylor+Drive,+Ave+Maria,+FL+34142&entry=gmail&source=g> Telephone: (814) 808-5702<tel:(814)%20808-5702> "All art is mortal, not merely the individual artifacts, but the arts themselves. One day the last portrait of Rembrandt and the last bar of Mozart will have ceased to be—though possibly a colored canvas and a sheet of notes may remain—because the last eye and the last ear accessible to their message will have gone." Oswald Spengler On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Stephen C. Rose <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I shall be interested. I amend my widely discredited remark. I am sure there was some dissing of Brent but I cannot place it. I did find a few positive notes that related to a quote from Benjamin on page 19 professing the existence of the deity. Neither of the two folks involved has been here of late. It might be interesting if some who read here have questions to see if we could move past the sort of exegetical questions that arise from analyzing passages. amazon.com/author/stephenrose<http://amazon.com/author/stephenrose> On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Stephen, List: These are outstanding questions, in my view worthy of their own thread. I may offer a few answers after some "chewing" on my own. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt<http://www.linkedin.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt> - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt<http://twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt> On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 4:32 PM, Stephen C. Rose <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: These are some issues we might chew on. Does Pierce's influence extend beyond the academy? Did Peirce see ethics and aesthetics as essential to triadic thinking? Did he intend his philosophy to have wide influence beyond the scientific community? Are there any public intellectuals who have depended on Peirce. In what sense, if any, was Peirce critical of "binary thinking? When Peirce compared himself to Aristotle was he looking to have universal influence? Does he? How did Peirce wish his thinking to evolve? Or did he? 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