Mike,

 

I don’t see how it could get more specific than that, when Peirce says “All 
this is equally true of the manner in which the laws of nature influence 
matter. A law is in itself nothing but a general formula or symbol” (CP 5.107).

 

If that’s vague, maybe that’s why Nathan Houser wrote that “there is some 
reason to believe that even the laws of nature are semiotic products.”

 

Gary f.

 

From: Mike Bergman [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 9-Dec-17 18:51
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Laws of Nature

 

Hi Gary f, List,

I am generally familiar with the general references for laws and the tendencies 
to them. I guess I did not address my question well. Are there passages from 
Peirce where he specifically connects semiosis or signs to nature, other than 
the passing reference to crystals? I believe we can infer that Peirce likely 
believed the laws of nature to be subject to semiosis, but is it anywhere 
stated something like that?

I found the connection of CP 5.105 'law of nature' to signs or semiosis in the 
context of my question to be unclear, though suggesting it was helpful. I read 
on and found CP 5.107 a little more to the point, but still vague. I do like 
the fact this comes up in his discussion of the reality of Thirdness. Still, 
pretty thin gruel. Maybe that is as strong as the evidence gets.

Thanks!

Mike

 

On 12/9/2017 5:02 PM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  wrote:

Mike,

 

There are plenty of passages in Peirce which virtually identify semiosis with 
Representation and thus with Thirdness, and the laws of nature being general 
laws, Thirdness is predominant in them. For instance there is CP 5.105, EP 
2:184):

[[ Thirdness, as I use the term, is only a synonym for Representation, to which 
I prefer the less colored term because its suggestions are not so narrow and 
special as those of the word Representation. Now it is proper to say that a 
general principle that is operative in the real world is of the essential 
nature of a Representation and of a Symbol because its modus operandi is the 
same as that by which words produce physical effects. ]]

 

Gary f.

 

From: Mike Bergman [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 9-Dec-17 17:25
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: [PEIRCE-L] Laws of Nature

 

Hi List,

I was reading Nathan Houser's piece on "Peirce, Phenomenology, and Semiotics" 
in the Routledge Companion [1] and came across this quote:

"One of the principal realms of sign activity, or semiosis (semeiosis), is 
human thought; but semiosis prevails wherever there is life and there is some 
reason to believe that even the laws of nature are semiotic products." 
(emphasis added)

I am aware of the reference to crystals and bees (CP 4.551), but do not recall 
seeing Peirce references to signs in inanimate nature other than crystals. Does 
anyone on the list know of others?

Thanks!

Mike

[1] Houser, N., “Peirce, Phenomenology, and Semiotics,” The Routledge Companion 
to Semiotics, P. Cobley, ed., London ; New York: Routledge, 2010, pp. 89–100.

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