Gary F, List,

The texts to which you are drawing our attention are fascinating. Let me ask a 
question that we should be able answer in a yes or no way, even if we don't see 
all of the implications of the competing answers.


In "Prolegomena to an Apology to for Pragmaticism," Peirce makes some comments 
about "The Bedrock beneath Pragmaticism." The remarks are found in the CP in 
footnote 1 to 4.553 (on page 443 of Vol. 4). He says:  "It is chiefly for the 
sake of these convenient and familiar modes of representation of Petrosancta, 
that a modification of heraldic tinctures has been adopted. Vair and Potent 
here receive less decorative and pictorial Symbols. Fer and Plomb are selected 
to fill out the quaternion of metals on account of their monosyllabic names."


When he refers to the "quaternion" of the metals, it is clear that he means to 
use the term in the first of the sense that he articulates in the Century 
Dictionary, which is something that belongs to a group of four. In making the 
point, would it also make sense to say that the representation of these modes 
in the gamma system can be interpreted in the third sense of the term as well, 
where we employ a mathematical system of numbers that are understood to be in 
four dimensions--one real and three imaginary? In a number of places, both in 
the earlier writings on the symbolic systems of logic and the later writings on 
the existential graphs, Peirce applies the mathematical system of the 
quaternions for sake of thinking about the values of the variables where the 
values are (1) continuous in their variation (and not merely binary T or F), 
and (2) related as part of a system having more than three dimensions. As such, 
I think that the answer may be "yes", that we might interpret the relations 
between the tinctures that are used to designate the boundaries around 
different sheets as related in manner that is analogous to a four dimensional 
system of quaternions.


The reason I point this out is that it has a direct bearing on the way we might 
interpret the improvement offered on the gamma graphs where the relation 
between the recto and verso is taken to represent a relation between 
existential facts and possibilities of different kinds (depending on the tint 
of the outer boundary on the verso side)--where a cut in a page is conceived to 
go down through subsequent pages in a book that represents other kinds of 
possibilities depending upon the tint of the recto and verso of each of those 
pages.


In the system of the quaternions, the relations between the dimensions is 
different in a number of respects from that which is represented in an algebra 
of multiple dimensions where all of the dimensions are understood in terms of 
rational or real systems of number. One of the big differences is that in the 
system of quaternions, the multiplication of values in two of three imaginary 
dimensions (say i and j) takes you directly to a value in the other dimension 
(say k).


Why possible basis might I have for suggesting that Peirce may drawing on the 
Hamiltonian system of quaternions as a possible model for interpreting the 
relations between what is asserted on different pages have different tinctures? 
The straightforward reason is that Peirce is well aware that, in systems of 
number that are not complex (e.g., the integers, rationals or reals), there is 
no closure over the inverse operation of multiplying something by itself (i.e., 
raising it to a power). The inverse of this operation (e.g., taking the square 
root), requires the use of a system of complex numbers in order to have closure 
for the system. One of the things that the system of gamma graphs allows--which 
the alpha and beta systems do not--is the representation of the operation of 
hypostatic abstraction. In logical terms, this allows the introduction of 
objects that are formed on the basis of  abstractions of predicates--such as 
with a lambda operator in logics of Church or a Hilbert operator in the systems 
of Hilbert. As such, I think that Peirce sees that a modal logic--such as he is 
exploring in the gamma graphs--may need something that has the formal 
properties of the quaternions as a basis for interpreting the possible values 
of the variables. That, at least, is the guess I'd like to explore.


--Jeff




Jeffrey Downard
Associate Professor
Department of Philosophy
Northern Arizona University
(o) 928 523-8354
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Subject: RE: [PEIRCE-L] Phaneroscopy and logic


Jerry C,

You’re right that my perspective on the role of chemistry in Peirce’s work has 
changed quite a lot since a decade ago — but then, so have many other ideas I 
had about Peirce then. I daresay my ideas even about the ‘basic framework’ of 
his philosophy are still changing as I read and re-read more of his work.

I do think he meant the word “bedrock” in his title as a metaphor, but I also 
think that he found the object of that metaphor less “solid” than he hoped it 
would be when he started that 1908 essay, and that’s why he left it unfinished. 
To me, though, it’s no less interesting to follow his train of thought in these 
drafts than to follow it through his more finished and famous essays.

I’d like to quote here one more text that offers a clue to Peirce’s feelings 
about organic chemistry at the time he wrote it (1906). It’s an excerpt from 
“PAP”, MS 293 (NEM 4:313-30), one of Peirce’s drafts for his “Prolegomena to an 
Apology for Pragmaticism.”

[[ What, in a general way, does the Diagram of Existential Graphs represent the 
mode of structure of the Phaneron to be like? The question calls for a 
comparison, and in answering it a little flight of fancy will be in order. It 
represents the structure of the Phaneron to be quite like that of a chemical 
compound. In the imagined representation of the Phaneron (for we shall not, as 
yet, undertake actually to construct such a Graph), in place of the ordinary 
spots, which are Graphs not represented as compound, we shall have Instances of 
the absolutely Indecomposable Elements of the Phaneron (supposing it has any 
ultimate constituents, which, of course, remains to be seen, until we come to 
the question of their Matter; and as long as we are, as at present, discoursing 
only of their possible Forms, their being may be presumed), which [are] close 
enough analogues of the Atoms in the Chemical Graph of “Rational Formula.” Each 
Elementary Graph, like each chemical element, has its definite Valency,—the 
number of Pegs on the periphery of its Instance,—and the Lines of Identity 
(which never branch) will be quite analogous to the chemical bonds. This is 
resemblance enough. It is true that in Existential Graphs we have the Cuts, to 
which nothing in the chemical Graph corresponds. Not yet, at any rate. We are 
now just beginning to rend away the veil that has hitherto enshrouded the 
constitution of the proteid bodies; but whatever I may conjecture as to those 
vast supermolecules, some containing fifteen thousand molecules, whether it 
seems probable on chemical grounds, or not, that they contain groups of 
opposite polarity from the residues outside those groups, and whether or not 
similar polar submolecules appear within the complex inorganic acids, it is 
certainly too early to take those into account in helping the exposition of the 
constitution of the phaneron. Were such ideas as solid as they are, in fact, 
vaporous, they ought to be laid aside until we have first thoroughly learned 
all the lessons of that analogy between the constitution of the phaneron and 
that of chemical bodies which consists in both the one and the other being 
composed of elements of definite valency.  ]]

In our time, of course, “the veil that has hitherto enshrouded the constitution 
of the proteid bodies” has long gone, thanks to advances in microscopy, so that 
research into “the proteome” and the various functions of various proteins 
within the body seems to be overtaking genetic research at the cutting edge of 
the biological sciences. Peirce would have been very interested in this, I’m 
sure, but I’m equally sure it would not serve his phaneroscopic (or logical) 
purposes at all, any more than his phaneroscopy has any direct applications in 
such specialized sciences. To me, the importance of Peircean thinking today 
appears not so much in the laboratory as in the relations we live by every day, 
i.e. the subject matter of cenoscopy — for which, as he said, no special 
equipment is required, just a willingness to ask deep questions and try to work 
out answers to them.

Gary f.





From: Jerry LR Chandler <[email protected]>
Sent: 31-Mar-19 22:40

Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Phaneroscopy and logic



GaryF., List:



Thank you for your comments and perspectives.

Your perspective on the role of chemistry in CSP writings has changed in the 
past decade, has it not?



Next, a comment on a critical historical facet of chemistry.

Inorganic chemistry developed from mining, smelting, coinage, weaponry, etc.

Organic chemistry developed from food preservation, fermentation, dyestuffs and 
natural healing agents and the like.

Relatively little cross-over between the two practices because of different 
ends and different methods.

Conceptually, inorganic chemistry became the study of transformations by fire 
and heat, acids, bases and salts as electrical combinations of cations and 
anions that combined by pairings.

Organic chemistry was defined in terms of Life and destruction of organics by 
heat and fire to form acids bases and salts.



In both forms, the nature of chemical transformations was largely unfathomable. 
Mysterious. How this did “this” become “that”?

This mystery remains in public mindset yet today, does it not?



WRT the term, medad, it seems that CSP used the term in a grammatical sense in 
respect to the completeness of a sentence, in logical terms in the sense of 
completeness of propositions, in a chemical sense with regard to the inert 
gases and in a different chemical sense with regard to completeness or 
saturation of hypothetical valences. Context appears to determine the desired 
meaning.



With regard to your sentences:



In that post, was not trying to say anything about the chemical sciences as 
they exist today; and Peirce himself was not trying to inform his readers about 
chemical science when he adopted the “valency” analogy to construct a 
hypothesis about the elements of the phaneron. This thread is about 
phaneroscopy, and about Peirce’s development of that science. When I use the 
term “chemistry” in this thread, I am referring to the universe of discourse 
from which Peirce drew the concept of valency — which was, of course, the 
chemical science of his time.

my only comment is to wish you luck for the following reasons.



CSP’s knowledge of math, physics, chemistry, logic, philosophy and languages 
are intermingled and interbraided and interlaced and intermixed in such ways 
that I am skeptical that we will be able to untangle them. Was he justified in 
creating so many new words? Probably. But, without comparable knowledge of late 
19 th Century math, physics, chemistry, logic, philosophy and languages, each 
reader searches for an interpretation that fits their individual philosophy. 
Will anyone ever recreate the linguistic space that he created and mined and 
extended and bastardized? At least that’s my opinion this evening because it is 
now clear that several related symbol systems and logics are needed to make 
manifest the exact representation of things as forms and/or as information 
about things.



With regard to the Bedrock paper, why did CSP use this word, “bedrock”?  Is it 
merely a metaphor? Or, is it an analogy for sensible connects between the 
terminology of organic chemistry and his notions of existential graphs?  
Clearly, it is not homologous usages of organic terms between then and now.



I remain very grateful for your transcription of this paper because it 
substantially clarifies the underlying roles of chemistry in his logic WITHOUT 
necessitating any direct relationships or propositions or connections or 
functions or mappings.



Cheers



Jerry


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