Gary, List:

> On Apr 20, 2019, at 2:17 PM, Gary Richmond <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> In this regard and, for example, it would appear that Kilivila doesn't 
> express 'causation' or, perhaps, one might say 'process', 'growth', etc. As 
> the article quoted from would have it, there appear to be in some languages 
> "non-lineal codifications of reality." As this appears as a characteristic of 
> Kilivila, one reads:
> 
> Drawing upon earlier work earlier work by Bronisław Malinowski 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronis%C5%82aw_Malinowski>, Dorothy D. Lee 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_D._Lee>'s scholarly writings refer to 
> "non-lineal codifications of reality". In such a linguistic system, the 
> concept of linear progress of time, geometric shapes, and even conventional 
> methods of description, are lost altogether or altered. In her example of a 
> specific indigenous yam, Lee explains that when the yam moves from a state of 
> sprouting through ripeness to over-ripeness, the name for each object in a 
> specific state changes entirely - the description of the object at different 
> states of development relates to wholly different perceptions of the object. 
> Ripeness is considered a "defining ingredient" and thus once it becomes 
> over-ripe, a yam is perceived as a new object altogether. The same perception 
> pertains to time and geometric shapes.
> Lee, Dorothy D. B. (1950). Lineal and nonlineal codifications of reality. 
> Psychosomatic Medicine march-april 1950. p. 89.

The logic of the argument of Lee appears to rather shallow.

The consistency of the temporal sequences of states of the object “yam” and its 
consistent reproducibility of the states of the fruit of the plant are the 
hallmarks of (perhaps one of the basic definition)  logic and causality, from 
antecedents to consequences. 

Cheers

Jerry


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