Jeff, List:

JD:  ... is there a Quasi-mind that is the *interpreter *of the
Sign-Universe initially *uttered*?


According to Peirce, the "utterance" of the Universe is not an event that
happened thousands or billions of years in the past--it is still very much
in progress.

CSP:  This development of Reason consists, you will observe, in embodiment,
that is, in manifestation. The creation of the universe, which did not take
place during a certain busy week, in the year 4004 B.C., but is going on
today and never will be done, is this very development of Reason. (CP
1.615, EP 2:255; 1903).


The Universe as an Argument and a Perfect Sign is not something *static*;
it is an ongoing "inferential process" of semeiosis, and Peirce considered
its very *continuity *to be one of many hints suggesting the Reality of God.

CSP:  To my humble intelligence, the Rationality of Continuity, the chief
character of the foundation stones of the real universe, adds another to
the hundred already interpretable revelations of our Super-august and
Gracious Father. (R S30 [Copy T:7]; c. 1906)


Moreover, neither an utterer nor an interpreter is essential to a
Sign--only an Object and an Interpretant (cf. EP 2:404-410; 1907).

JD:  ... I have no qualms about using the proper name God to refer to the
Quasi-mind of the universe considered as a whole.


Again, a Quasi-mind is itself a Sign (SS 195; 1906 Mar 9), so how do you
square such an approach with Peirce's unambiguous statements on multiple
occasions that every Sign is determined by an Object *other than itself*?
What do you make of his emphatic assertions in four different manuscript
drafts of "A Neglected Argument" (R 843) that the proper name "God" *does
not *denote anything that is immanent in nature or the three Universes, but
rather its/their "Sole Creator"?  Do you simply disagree with him on these
points?

Regards,

Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman
www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt

On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 11:42 AM Jeffrey Brian Downard <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Gary F, Jon S, List,
>
> For the sake of clarifying the questions, consider a few periods from the
> history of the universe.  Here is an abbreviated timeline:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_the_universe
> Let me divide the story into the following three periods:
>
>
>    1.  Opening chapters:  from the first moments of the Planck era to the
>    dark ages.
>    2. Middle Chapters:  from the beginning of star formation to the
>    present age.
>    3. Future Chapters:  from the near future to the distant future.
>
> The questions might be reformulated in the following way. For the first of
> these periods, is there a Quasi-mind that is the *interpreter* of the
> Sign-Universe initially *uttered? *In what sense might such a
> Quasi-mind which is realized, perhaps, in the lawful habits that are
> taking shape in each chapter, speaking to itself? As a great body called
> the cosmos, it appears that the universe has undergone a remarkable series
> of metamorphoses over the course of its evolution. As the body of the
> universe as a whole has evolved, in what manner might the parts of that
> body be communicating information, meaning or purpose in relation to the
> other parts and to the larger whole of that body? In that first period, is
> the ongoing creation of more or less ordered relations in the three
> universes of possible experience given direction by some kind of ideal?
> Did such an all-encompassing ideal itself evolve? How did it take shape?
>
> Let us assume, for the sake of argument, that the operation of chance
> itself has a kind of living character--especially insofar as we imagine
> that the seeds of the growth of order were spread throughout the universe
> of chance, conceived in terms of its potential qualities, from the start?
> Furthermore, let us assume that the ongoing sprouting and growth of the
> seeds of order is governed by a law of mind in virtue of which the
> qualities of the parts of the cosmos--at every scale--grow in their
> relations to one another in virtue of their affectability and,
> furthermore, that those facts that do occur at any time tend to increase
> the odds of what might happen next.
>
>
> The operation of this law of mind might be understood, from a more
> external point of view, in terms of its governance of a universe of facts.
> The formation and growth of the habits governing these facts happens via a
> process of association by resemblance and contiguity. Or, from a more
> internal point of view, we might understand the operation of the law of
> mind as the governance of the laws of nature--considered as representations
> in a Quasi-mind--via patterns of synthetic inference in that are abductive
> and inductive in character. How do these hypotheses concerning the
> priority of the law of mind *vis a vis* all other laws shape our
> understanding of the questions posed above?
>
>
> Turning now to the middle period when galaxies, stars and solar systems
> having biological forms of life evolved, how might we understand the questions
> and hypotheses considered above? Can the questions be clarified further? Do
> the hypotheses that are offered as possible answers to the questions take a
> different shape when it comes to explaining the evolution of the forms of
> order that are governing the universe in this period? Do the questions
> and hypotheses take yet a different shape as we look to the near and
> distant future?
>
>
> Insofar as some of us in the community of inquiry accept the sorts of
> hypotheses listed above, I have no qualms about using the proper name God
> to refer to the Quasi-mind of the universe considered as a whole. As a
> matter of fact, my own inquiries in philosophy are shaped by such grand
> hypothesis. In turn, I hope that my actions and the cultivation of my
> habits of feeling are similarly guided.
>
>
> For those who do have qualms about the use of that proper name, I'm also
> fine if they prefer to call it the Quasi-mind of the universe. If we adopt
> the hypotheses that Peirce recommends as plausible, then this great
> Quasi-mind is growing in its reasonableness as the cosmos comes to be
> governed by richer systems of physical, chemical, biological and other
> types of laws. While these aren't the only hypotheses available to explain
> the ongoing evolution of the cosmos, they do form a set of conjectures that
> I find particularly attractive. As such, I'd be interested in seeing how
> those hypotheses might be used to frame the more detailed explanations
> being developed in the special sciences to explain the origins of (1) physical
> order, (2) life and (3) self-controlled forms of thought in nature.
>
>
> Yours,
>
>
> Jeff
> Jeffrey Downard
> Associate Professor
> Department of Philosophy
> Northern Arizona University
> (o) 928 523-8354
>
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