Rectification : Exercises 1 and 2 : Build a functor  of (D)  in (C).( For
reasons of homogeneity of the notations with other papers.)

Le jeu. 7 mai 2020 à 12:05, Robert Marty <robertmarty...@gmail.com> a
écrit :

> Jon Alan, Helmut, Edwina, List
>
>  JAS > "Unfortunately I am not adept enough with mathematical category
> theory to make heads or tails of Robert's exposition below.  It still seems
> to me that "category" means something quite different in that context than
> it does for Peirce when he is writing about 1ns, 2ns, and 3ns.  Am I
> wrong?  If so, I would appreciate some further explanation of how they
> relate to each other."
>
>
>
> RM > I'd love to. The term "category" can be used without problem in a
> field other than the one you are used to. In the category theory it refers
> to a mathematical object in the usual sense chosen by Peirce as" "a
> construction independent of its real existence". An industrial property law
> allows the same name to be used for products that are in very remote areas
> of the economy such as Corona for a beer or for a virus (which is not
> without danger, hence Covid-19!). You see the comparison ...😉
>
> Nb: I noted that you are a professional engineer; your training should
> allow you to understand the following where it is only definitions. No
> theorem, no specific technique; definitions, I stress that point.
>
>
>
> 1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_(mathematics)
>
> *Definition of category*
>
> There are many equivalent definitions of a category.[2]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_(mathematics)#cite_note-2> One
> commonly used definition is as follows. A *category* *C* consists of
>
> ·         a class <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_(set_theory)> ob(
> *C*) of *objects*
>
> ·         a class hom(*C*) of *morphisms
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphism>*, or *arrows*, or *maps*,
> between the objects. Each morphism *f* has a *source object a* and a *target
> object b* where *a* and *b* are in ob(*C*). We write *f*: *a* → *b*, and
> we say "*f* is a morphism from *a* to *b*". We write hom(*a*, *b*) (or hom
> *C*(*a*, *b*) when there may be confusion about to which category hom(*a*,
> *b*) refers) to denote the *hom-class* of all morphisms from *a* to *b*.
> (Some authors write Mor(*a*, *b*) or simply *C*(*a*, *b*) instead.)
>
> ·         for every three objects *a*, *b* and *c*, a binary operation
> hom(*a*, *b*) × hom(*b*, *c*) → hom(*a*, *c*) called *composition of
> morphisms*; the composition of *f* : *a* → *b* and *g* : *b* → *c* is
> written as *g* ∘ *f* or *gf*. (Some authors use "diagrammatic order",
> writing *f;g* or *fg*.)
>
> such that the following axioms hold:
>
> ·         (associativity <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associativity>)
> if *f* : *a* → *b*, *g* : *b* → *c* and *h* : *c* → *d* then *h* ∘ (*g* ∘
> *f*) = (*h* ∘ *g*) ∘ *f*, and
>
> ·         (identity <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_(mathematics)>)
> for every object *x*, there exists a morphism 1*x* : *x* → *x* (some
> authors write *idx*) called the *identity morphism for x*, such that for
> every morphism *f* : *a* → *x* and every morphism *g* : *x* → *b*, we
> have 1*x* ∘ *f* = *f* and *g* ∘ 1*x* = *g*.
>
> From these axioms, one can prove that there is exactly one identity
> morphism for every object. Some authors use a slight variation of the
> definition in which each object is identified with the corresponding
> identity morphism.
>
>
>
> *( ! **) By extraordinary the example at the top right is interpretable
> with*
>
>
>
> A = 3ns ; B = 2ns ; C = 1ns ; f = involvesβ ; g = involvesα ; g o f = β o
> α ;  let's name C this category
>
> But also
>
>
>
> A = O ; B = S ;  C = I ; f = det1 ;  g = det2 ;  g o f = det2 o det1 ;
> let's name *D* this category
>
>
>
> *Remember these two interpretations, * *they will* *serve ....*
>
>
>
> 2 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functor
>
> *Definition** of functor*
>
> Let *C* and *D* be categories
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_(mathematics)>.
>  A *functor*  *F*  from *C* to *D* is a mapping that
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functor#cite_note-FOOTNOTEJacobson2009p._19,_def._1.2-3>
>  associates to each object X {\displaystyle X} X in *C* an object F ( X )
> {\displaystyle F(X)}  f(X) in *D*,
>
> ·        associates to each morphism f : X → Y {\displaystyle f\colon
> X\to Y} f : XàY in *C* a morphism F ( f ) : F ( X ) → F ( Y )
> {\displaystyle F(f)\colon F(X)\to F(Y)} f(X)àY in *D* such that the
> following two conditions hold: F ( i d X ) = i d F ( X ) {\displaystyle
> F(\mathrm {id} _{X})=\mathrm {id} _{F(X)}\,\!}
>
> ·        F(idX) = idF(X) for every object X {\displaystyle X} in *C*,F (
> g ∘ f ) = F ( g ) ∘ F ( f ) {\displaystyle F(g\circ f)=F(g)\circ F(f)}
>
>
>
> ·        F(g o f) = F(g) o F(f) for all morphisms f : X → Y
> {\displaystyle f\colon X\to Y\,\!} f ; XàY and g : Y → Z {\displaystyle
> g\colon Y\to Z} g : YàZ in *C*.
>
> That is, functors must preserve identity morphisms
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphism#Definition> and composition
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Function_composition> of morphisms.
>
> __________________________
>
> *Exercise 1* 😉
>
> Build a functor  of *(C)*  in (*D)*).
> *Graphic Hint:* for this it is necessary to connect the elements of C to
> those of D by 3 arrows avoiding any intersection
>
> *Exercice 2*
>
> Build all the functors of *(C)*  in (*D*)
>
> *Answer: *there are exactly 10 funtors  (C*C*)  in (*D*)
>
>
>
> 3 – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_transformation
>
> *Definition of natural transformation of functors*
>
> If F {\displaystyle F} F and G {\displaystyle G} G are functors
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functor> between the categories *C
> {\displaystyle C}  C* and *D* D {\displaystyle D} , then a *natural
> transformation* η {\displaystyle \eta } µ from F {\displaystyle F}  F to G
> {\displaystyle G} G is a family of morphisms that satisfies two
> requirements.
> *3.1* - The natural transformation must associate, to every object X
> {\displaystyle X} X in *C {\displaystyle C} C* , a morphism
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphism>
>
>  η X : F ( X ) → G ( X ) {\displaystyle \eta _{X}:F(X)\to G(X)} µX : F(X)
> à G(X)  between objects of *D {\displaystyle D} D*. The morphism η X : F
> ( X ) → G ( X ) {\displaystyle \eta _{X}:F(X)\to G(X)} µX  η X
> {\displaystyle \eta _{X}} is called the *component* of η {\displaystyle
> \eta } µ at X {\displaystyle X} X.
>
> *3.2-* Components must be such that for every morphism f : X → Y
> {\displaystyle f:X\to Y} f : XàY in *C {\displaystyle C} C *we have:
>
> µY o F(f) = G(f) o µXη Y ∘ F ( f ) = G ( f ) ∘ η X {\displaystyle \eta
> _{Y}\circ F(f)=G(f)\circ \eta _{X}}
>
> The last equation can conveniently be expressed by the commutative diagram
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commutative_diagram>
>
>          X                       F(X) ---------µX--------à G(X)
>          |                        |                                   |
>       f |                 F(f) |                                    | G(f)
>          v                        v                                   v
>          Y                      F(Y)---------- µY --------à  G(Y)
>
> *Nb*: *I am obliged to rewrite all the diagrams and even the letters that
> are images in Wikipedia and I put **µ** in place of "eta".*
>
> If µ η {\displaystyle \eta } is a natural transformation from F
> {\displaystyle F} to G {\displaystyle G} F to G, we also write µ : F àG η
> : F → G {\displaystyle \eta :F\to G}  η : F ⟹ G {\displaystyle \eta
> :F\implies G} .
>
> *Exercise* 3: Choose from the 10 functors found in Exercise 2 two
> functors for which there is a natural transformation.
>
> *Graphic Hint*: To do this, you have to link the elements of F to the
>  elements of G by 3 arrows, avoiding any intersection.
>
> *Exercice 4* : find all possible natural transformations and make sure
> they get the lattice of the sign classes!
>
> !
>
>                                      That all ! 😊
>
> Best regards,
>
> Robert
>
>
>
> Le jeu. 7 mai 2020 à 03:32, Jon Alan Schmidt <jonalanschm...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> Gary R., Robert, List:
>>
>> I take no exception to anything in Gary R.'s reply, and in light of his
>> and Robert's comments along with Jon A.'s remark in the other thread, I am
>> now persuaded to embrace the formulation that 3ns involves 2ns and 1ns,
>> while 2ns involves 1ns.   However, I would welcome some further discussion
>> of whether involution (or presupposition) in this context is really a 
>> *genuine
>> *triadic relation in the case of 3ns, rather than a *degenerate* triadic
>> relation that can be reduced to transitive dyadic relations (3ns involves
>> 2ns, which involves 1ns).
>>
>> Unfortunately I am not adept enough with mathematical category theory to
>> make heads or tails of Robert's exposition below.  It still seems to me
>> that "category" means something quite different in that context than it
>> does for Peirce when he is writing about 1ns, 2ns, and 3ns.  Am I wrong?
>> If so, I would appreciate some further explanation of how they relate to
>> each other.
>>
>> I will also point out once again my disagreement regarding the logical
>> order of the three interpretants in the hexad.  I believe that it should be
>> If→Id→Ii, and it seems to me that this is *more *consistent with "the
>> immutable suite of the three 3ns→2ns→1ns" as 3→2/3→1/2/3, just as the two
>> objects are Od→Oi as 2→1/2.  Am I overlooking something in the underlying
>> logic that *requires* the sequence of the interpretants to be Ii→Id→If?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
>> Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman
>> www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt
>>
>> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 6:10 AM robert marty <robert.mart...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gary, Jon Alan, Jon Awbrey, List
>>>
>>> *1 *-First I note that the formulation "3ns involves 2ns, which
>>> involves 1ns" is very dangerous car it forgets that 2ns has its autonomy
>>> and 1ns too. If you look at the podium on remains in the inner cylinder. It
>>> seems to me that Peirce's reproach to Hegel is:
>>>
>>> "*He has usually overlooked external Secondness, altogether. In other
>>> words, he has committed the trifling oversight of forgetting that there is
>>> a real world with real actions and reactions. **Rather a serious
>>> oversight that".*
>>>
>>> It is therefore  important to prefer"3ns involves 2ns and 1ns, while
>>> 2ns involves 1ns" which preserves the autonomy of the Peircian
>>> categories  so as not to encourage the idea of a possible peircean
>>> hegelianism. "
>>>
>>> 2 – On the specific question *"about **the conceptual relationship
>>> between Peirce's trichotomic category theory and contemporary mathematical
>>> category theory if any"*, I will mainly have a limited response to the
>>> field at hand, that is, the classification of signs. Then I can give
>>> some personal reflections on the general scope of mathematical category
>>> theory in the humanities.
>>>
>>> I was just preparing a text on the comparison of the ways in which
>>> classes of signs are generated by different authors and I chose the most
>>> interesting and successful in my eyes, i.e. Gary's trikônics, the triangles
>>> of Priscila Farias and Joao Queiroz  and the signtree of Priscila Borges.
>>> It can be said at first glance that they are equivalent since they
>>> generate the same classes of signs that can be characterized by sequences
>>> of numbers of length n = 3, 6 or 10 taken in the set  {1,2,3} and verifying
>>> that each number must be less or equal to the previous number. But the
>>> question is, since these are classes based on different graphic metaphors,
>>> what is the common formal structure - if there is one - of which they are
>>> the graphic inscriptions. For this it is necessary to go in the field of
>>> posets and more precisely totally ordered sets the simplest that are the
>>> chains:
>>>
>>> " A set with a partial order is called a *partially ordered set* (also
>>> called a *poset*). The term *ordered set* is sometimes also used, as
>>> long as it is clear from the context that no other kind of order is meant.
>>> In particular, totally ordered sets
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_order> can also be referred to
>>> as "ordered sets", especially in areas where these structures are more
>>> common than posets.
>>>
>>> For *a, b*, elements of a partially ordered set *P*, if *a* ≤ *b* or *b*
>>>  ≤ *a*, then *a* and *b* are *comparable
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparability>*. A partial order under
>>> which every pair of elements is comparable is called a *total order
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totally_ordered_set>* or *linear order*;
>>> a totally ordered set is also called a *chain* (e.g., the natural
>>> numbers with their standard order)".
>>>
>>> ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partially_ordered_set)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Clearly the abstract diagram *3ns**à**2ns**à**1ns* (let's call the P)
>>> is a chain which is common to all three approaches.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have also the maps between partially ordered sets
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> " Definition 6: A function f : P → Q between partially ordered sets is
>>> order-preserving if x ≤P y ⇒ f(x) ≤Q f(y).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Definition 7: Two partially ordered sets P and Q are isomorphic if there
>>> exists a bijective, order-preserving map between them whose inverse is also
>>> order-preserving"
>>>
>>> (http://www-math.mit.edu/~levine/18.312/alg-comb-lecture-7.pdf )
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To use this notion of the preservation of order, it is necessary to
>>> identify in each graphic metaphor a Q chain .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *I claim that these Q chains are materialized at the moment when
>>> everyone chooses the convention that consists of locating the sign, the
>>> object of the sign and its interpretant on the graphic icon he has chosen.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *As for Gary*: starting from the object at the lower corner of his
>>> trikône he goes up to the sign at the top corner following the "vertical"
>>> side and then from there he should go to interpretant it from the top side
>>> but if his graph indicates a direct relationship between the object and the
>>> interpretant, which is the same because it is the concatenation of the
>>> first two paths. What is thus traced is an OàS àI chain.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *As for **Priscila Farias et Joao Queiroz :*  (
>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/249933979_On_diagrams_for_Peirces_10_28_and_66_classes_of_signs
>>> )
>>>
>>> it is the same  ; the way is taken from Peirce for which the categories
>>> are assigned thereby : the object to the upper left corner to go to the
>>> sign at the bottom corner and from there to interpretant it in the upper
>>> right corner. They create what they call "triangular coordinates" but it's
>>> the same OàS àI  chain and it's do the same it when they process
>>> graphically n = 6 and n = 10 which has the effect of multiplying the
>>> triangles.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Priscila Borges* uses the graphic metaphor of the developing tree:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/263463845_THE_SIGNTREE_FROM_SIGN_STRUCTURE_TO_PEIRCE'S_PHILOSOPHY_THROUGH_READING_A_VISUAL_MODEL_OF_THE_66_CLASSES_OF_SIGNS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "So, the diagram construction begins by the idea of tree rings. They
>>> are used in dendrocronology to count the age of trees. As years go by
>>> rings grow in trees, but they are also affected by climate factors. More
>>> than sign of time, tree rings show interaction between systems. All
>>> these concepts are welcome in semiotic process. Each ring corresponds
>>> to one trichotomy: the first trichotomy comes in the centre, the second
>>> trichotomy in the second ring and so on. "
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In this text she does it for n =10:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  "Consequently, since the object determines the sign, and not the sign 
>>> determines
>>> the object, it was necessary to put the dynamical object in the central
>>> ring, followed by the immediate object and the ground of sign. Given the
>>> first three correlates, comes the first relation: between sign and
>>> dynamical object. This relation determines the possible interpretants,
>>> called immediate interpretants that when are existent become dynamical
>>> interpretants. So, the elements that compose the second relation are
>>> given: between sign and dynamical interpretant."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Moving from a growth ring of its tree to the next it builds the de facto
>>> chain for n = 6:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Od àOiàSàIiàIdàIf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And for  n =1 0 she  obtient very beautiful diagrams intelligently
>>> colored.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *My conclusion is that all these iconographic constructions are
>>> isomorphic; they are produced in the same way using the applications of the
>>> immutable suite of the three **3ns**à**2ns* *à**1ns **and the f
>>> application in n-length chains similar to the protosigns I defined in the
>>> article on the trichotomic machine. They all lead - we just saw - to sets
>>> (in the sense of set theory). The results: classes of signs without
>>> explicit relations between them. *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Now here's the jump in the category theory :*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *"Every poset (and every **preordered set
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preorder>**) may be considered as a 
>>> **category
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_(mathematics)>** where, for
>>> objects x and y, there is at most one **morphism
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morphism>** from x to y. More
>>> explicitly, let hom(x, y) = {(x, y)} if x ≤ y(and otherwise the empty set)
>>> and (y, z)**∘**(x, y) = (x, z). Such categories are sometimes called 
>>> **posetal
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posetal_category>**."*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Posets are equivalent
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivalence_of_categories> to one
>>> another if and only if they are isomorphic
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isomorphism_of_categories>. In a
>>> poset, the smallest element, if it exists, is an initial object
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial_object>, and the largest
>>> element, if it exists, is a terminal object
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_object>. Also, every
>>> preordered set is equivalent to a poset. Finally, every subcategory of a
>>> poset is isomorphism-closed
>>> <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isomorphism-closed>." (
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partially_ordered_set#Mappings_between_partially_ordered_sets
>>> )
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> so the same mathematical objects that are involved in the ensemblist
>>> mathematical models that I have just listed can be looked at differently;
>>> they are now algebraic categories. On can use all the conceptual apparatus
>>> of the categories and first the functors and especially the bonus of
>>> natural transformations of functors which brings us back to the trichotomic
>>> machine. This machine naturally produces the same classes of signs of
>>> course but with the order of a lattice revealed by the natural
>>> transformations of functors that we will be able to exploit to increase our
>>> knowledge of the signs and especially to create a methodology as an example
>>> I did in the case of nicotine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The general idea that has guided me for a long time is that Peirce's
>>> thought is "functorial" and that his universe of thought is above all
>>> relational. This is the reason for the fact that I continued work started
>>> in my book "The Algebra of Signs". I try to express all its semiotics by
>>> starting with a formalization of the "percipuum" in the category of
>>> relational structures. But that's another story...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For now I am sorry to find that I submitted my nicotine analysis to the
>>> criticism on May 3rd and that I did not get any reaction. I believe that I
>>> show and demonstrate how a positive image of semiotics is formed and how it
>>> gains in "semioticity" until it becomes able to compete with the negative
>>> image of nicotine installed in a Dicent Symbol, at the top of the lattice.
>>>
>>> See
>>> https://www.academia.edu/42930701/Nicotine_a_semiotic_confrontation_between_life_and_death
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Robert Marty
>>>
>>> Le mer. 6 mai 2020 à 06:47, Gary Richmond <gary.richm...@gmail.com> a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>> Jon, Robert, List,
>>>>
>>>> JAS: Overall, we seem to be more or less on the same page.
>>>> GR: I think that's so.
>>>>
>>>> JAS: I understand the impetus for using "presupposition" rather than
>>>> "involution," since the former term is more familiar to modern
>>>> mathematicians and logicians than the latter.
>>>> GR: I too understand the impetus for Robert's using "presupposition" as
>>>> being more familiar to modern mathematicians than "involution." But how
>>>> many of them are familiar with Peirce's three category theory at all? I
>>>> continue to believe that in consideration of Peirce's semeiotic (and all
>>>> that follows from it) that "involution" is the more accurate and evocative
>>>> term.
>>>>
>>>> JAS: I have no objection to saying that 3ns involves 2ns and 1ns, while
>>>> 2ns involves 1ns.  I just find it more succinct and equally accurate to say
>>>> that 3ns involves 2ns, which involves 1ns; this already entails that 3ns
>>>> also involves 1ns.
>>>> GR: Logically, of course, you are correct and your more succinct
>>>> version is equivalent. But saying that "3ns involves 2ns and 1ns"
>>>> brings the fundamental trichotomy into high relief immediately. But it is a
>>>> minor point, perhaps one merely of emphasis.
>>>>
>>>> JAS: I am not wedded to Peirce's adaptation of Aristotelian terminology
>>>> (1ns/2ns/3ns = form/matter/entelechy), which is most prevalent in his
>>>> writings around 1904--e.g., in "New Elements" (EP 2:303-305) and "Sketch of
>>>> Dichotomic Mathematics" (NEM 4:292-300)--but I find it helpful in certain
>>>> contexts.
>>>> GR: I suppose it is helpful in certain contexts to employ Peirce's
>>>> tricategorial adaptation of Aristotelian terminology. But is it possible
>>>> that the movement from one equivalent terminology to another -- especially,
>>>> but not only, within a single analysis -- has impeded the more general
>>>> acceptance of some core Peircean ideas? I don't think there's an easy
>>>> solution to this or any of the terminological questions we've taken up on
>>>> the list over the last few years, but I think that there may be a
>>>> communicational problematic here worth considering.
>>>>
>>>> JAS: I share Gary R.'s interest in learning more about "the conceptual
>>>> relationship between Peirce's trichotomic category theory and contemporary
>>>> mathematical category theory if any."  I am more familiar with Fernando
>>>> Zalamea's opinion (which I share) that Peirce's mathematical conception of
>>>> continuity is more consistent with category theory (synthetic/top-down)
>>>> than set theory (analytic/bottom-up).
>>>> GR: Zalamea is, in my estimation, one of, if not the leading
>>>> contemporary expert writing on mathematical continuity today. Again, I
>>>> would be most interested in your thoughts, Robert, about "the
>>>> conceptual relationship between Peirce's trichotomic category theory and
>>>> contemporary mathematical category theory if any."
>>>>
>>>> Best.
>>>>
>>>> Gary R
>>>>
>>>> "Time is not a renewable resource." gnox
>>>> *Gary Richmond*
>>>> *Philosophy and Critical Thinking*
>>>> *Communication Studies*
>>>> *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York*
>>>>
>>>>>
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