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On 12/17/2020 3:55 PM, Skaggs,Steven wrote:

H&E,

Differences in how far we extend words and categories and metaphorical uses of 
them is often a problem in discourse. Perhaps we experience some of that here?

I really appreciate Helmut’s contributions as he tries to reconcile E and my 
views. Perhaps we are not complete antagonists, just have different thresholds 
for the use of certain terms.

SxS

On Dec 17, 2020, at 1:40 PM, Skaggs,Steven 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thanks, Edwina. A lot of the problem has to do with discerning scales and other kinds of 
boundaries, i.e. phylogenic from ontogenic. The division of scales of any sort, even 
splitting the rainbow into 4, 6 or 8 colors, is difficult. I agree with what you're 
saying about adaptation, a word that sits more comfortably for me here than inductive 
reasoning. It is local in the sense of being an interactive feedback response between 
organism and environmental context, both of which may change through time. Don’t know 
about "reject random mutation as a means of dealing with environmental 
challenge", though. Seems that pressure from threatening conditions would greatly 
favor those individuals that differ in ways that defer or blunt the pressure. And, short 
of conscious agency (for example, on the part of social groups who could indeed use 
inference), most biological forms would probably blindly fall into the sweet spot — or 
become extinct. —SxS

On Dec 17, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Edwina Taborsky 
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