Steven - no, I don't think the problem is semantic. I think that we
differ theoretically!

        Edwina
 On Thu 17/12/20  8:55 PM , "Skaggs,Steven" [email protected]
sent:
    H&E, 
  Differences in how far we extend words and categories and
metaphorical uses of them is often a problem in discourse. Perhaps we
experience some of that here?  
  I really appreciate Helmut’s contributions as he tries to
reconcile E and my views. Perhaps we are not complete antagonists,
just have different thresholds for the use of certain terms.  
  SxS 
 On Dec 17, 2020, at 1:40 PM, Skaggs,Steven  wrote: 
   Thanks, Edwina. A lot of the problem has to do with discerning
scales and other kinds of boundaries, i.e. phylogenic from ontogenic.
The division of scales of any sort, even splitting the rainbow into 4,
6 or 8 colors, is difficult. I agree with what you're  saying about
adaptation, a word that sits more comfortably for me here than
inductive reasoning. It is local in the sense of being an interactive
feedback response between organism and environmental context, both of
which may change through time. Don’t know about "reject random
mutation as a means of dealing with environmental  challenge",
though. Seems that pressure from threatening conditions would greatly
favor those individuals that differ in ways that defer or blunt the
pressure. And, short of conscious agency (for example, on the part of
social groups who could indeed use inference),  most biological forms
would probably blindly fall into the sweet spot — or become
extinct. —SxS 
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