Jon A., List: I assume that this a response to the last two statements quoted from Peirce in the referenced slide.
CSP:I desire to have the privilege of creating an English word, *phaneron*, to denote whatever is throughout its entirety open to assured observation. No external object is throughout its entirety open to observation. (R 337:7, 1904) I can see how this might bring to mind "the unknowable object in itself" for someone who is otherwise unfamiliar with Peirce's writings, but it surprises me that it is coming from someone who has studied them carefully. For example ... CSP: The present writer was a pure Kantist until he was forced by successive steps into Pragmaticism. The Kantist has only to abjure from the bottom of his heart the proposition that a thing-in-itself can, however indirectly, be conceived; and then correct the details of Kant's doctrine accordingly, and he will find himself to have become a Critical Common-sensist. (CP 5.452, EP 2:353-354, 1905) Besides, in R 337, Peirce is talking about observation rather than knowledge. His point is *not *that any external object is unknowable in itself, but that phaneroscopy studies *only *that which is or could be *present to the mind*, and thus "throughout its entirety open to assured observation." What we *know *about external objects is the result of *inference *rather than direct observation, beginning with quasi-abductive perceptual judgments as "the first premisses of all our reasonings" (CP 5.116, EP 2:191, 1903). Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 8:49 AM Jon Awbrey <jawb...@att.net> wrote: > oh goody, > > after the revival of positivism and empiricism, logical or otherwise, i > guess we should expect the revenge of the unknowable object in itself. > > jon >
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