Dear Phyllis, Edwina, JAS, John, Gary, list,
I have read that: *The goal of an inference is * *to establish the existence of an unperceived object,* *and if we did perceive that object, * *we would have no need to infer it; * *however inference *necessarily* regards an object * *that has already been perceived.* Does anyone know what this means and who wrote it? I am *certain* there is Wisdom in it but not sure why. It appears to me there is fruit here, which may connect to Phyllis’ call for formal analysis by the ordinary; that is, fifth graders. I mean, even *Harris* knows that, *already*, amirite? Btw, Phyllis, I have long admired your efforts to communicate Peirce ideas to ordinary folk. In fact, I have sometimes used your go-carts of judgment. Thank you, also, for your attempts at reducing the temperature on here. Your actions, I believe, are representative of *sophrosune*, the virtue of the man who could but does not abuse his power.. and when the word is applied to women.. *the* womanly virtue.. With best wishes, Jerry R On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 2:11 PM Jon Alan Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote: > John, Edwina, List: > > JFS: In the beginning (en arche) was the Logos, and the Logos was with > God, and God was the Logos. That is the only definition of God in the New > Testament. > > > On the contrary, it is by no means the *only *definition of God in the > New Testament, or even in the writings of John the Evangelist. For example, > "God is a Spirit" (John 4:24); "God is light" (1 John 1:5); "God is love" > (1 John 4:8&16). > > ET: I see ‘Logos’ as Mind. > > > The problem with interpreting "Logos" as *impersonal *"Mind" in the first > chapter of John's Gospel is what the text goes on to say in verse 14--"And > the Word [Logos] was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his > glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and > truth." This obviously entails a conception of the Logos as *personal *such > that God became a human being. > > Regards, > > Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA > Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian > www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 11:51 AM Edwina Taborsky < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, I agree, they are compatible. >> >> Other terms- which are used ( by Peirce and others ) - such as ‘soul’ >> would have to be explained . >> I see ‘Logos’ as Mind. >> The development of metaphysical explanations for experience and reality, >> by all peoples, which are filled with both emotional and rational >> narratives is a fascinating aspect of humanity. >> >> Edwina >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Sep 10, 2021, at 12:39 PM, sowa @bestweb.net <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Edwina, Jon AS, List, >> >> Those two comments are completely compatible. >> ------------------------------ >> ET: Prayer is, in my view, a psychological form of behaviour - among ALL >> human populations. >> >> JAS: Peirce...:states plainly that prayer is a universal human instinct >> by which the soul expresses consciousness of its relation to God. >> >> But the word 'plainly' is not appropriate. That sentence is a paraphrase >> of a much more nuanced comment, which he would admit is fallible. Please >> note that Peirce's favorite gospel is the one by John the Evangelist: In >> the beginning (en arche) was the Logos, and the Logos was with God, and God >> was the Logos. That is the only definition of God in the New Testament. >> And it is consistent with what Heraclitus wrote. >> >> In fact, Philo Judaeus of Alexandria wrote many volumes (in Greek) to >> show that the Greek philosophers were influenced by the Hebrew prophets. I >> don't believe that it's an accident that all of them lived along the Silk >> Road that carried soldiers, merchants, and gurus\ to and from China, India, >> Persia, Babylon, Greece, Israel, and Egypt. >> >> Also note that Alexandria was in Egypt, and Philo used the Septuagint >> (Greek translation of the Hebrew). It's very likely that John was >> influenced by Philo as well as the Greek philosophers.. >> >> John >> >> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON > PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to > [email protected] . > ► To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message NOT to PEIRCE-L but to > [email protected] with UNSUBSCRIBE PEIRCE-L in the SUBJECT LINE of the > message and nothing in the body. More at > https://list.iupui.edu/sympa/help/user-signoff.html . > ► PEIRCE-L is owned by THE PEIRCE GROUP; moderated by Gary Richmond; and > co-managed by him and Ben Udell. >
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