Dear Edwina, Jerry, Bernard, list,
Why so pessimistic? I mean, we at least profess a dogmatic view that Peirce was a great philosopher, and *as* such, we would at least follow his method of mediation, *amirite*? .. because ‘spring to action’ and all that.. So then, what does one do, *as* Peirceans, when faced with tribal behavior in our own midst? For the problem can be stated as thus: And before a crowd means among the ignorant: for surely, among those who know, he will not be more convincing.. Therefore when the rhetorician is more convincing than the doctor, the ignorant is more convincing among the ignorant than the expert. With best wishes, Jerry R On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 12:58 PM Edwina Taborsky <tabor...@primus.ca> wrote: > I think it is very difficult to change this list. It can be difficult to > post, since one is so frequently met with, not a discussion, but > authoritative assertions of 'No, Peirce did not say/mean...that'... > > One doesn't find words like: "In my understanding' or 'in my view'. Or 'I > think that'. Instead, it's authoritative verbiage that is quite relentless > in claiming that you are quite wrong, you are not genuinely following > Peirce...and so on. > > It's almost like a tribal syndrome, where a few people consider themselves > 'Genuine Members of the Peirce Tribe'..and others are viewed as outsiders > with little claim or right to discuss the issues - and certainly cannot > claim membership with the select few. > > I doubt if this can change. > > Edwina > > > > On Wed 06/10/21 1:30 PM , Bernard Morand morand.bern...@neuf.fr sent: > > Thanks Jerry for this reply and support. > > Unfortunately I have no complete answer to your pertinent question: "What > practical steps are necessary to re-enliven our community and our > communications? " > > Perhaps some listers actually silent have good ideas about that. They > ought to be encouraged to manifest themselves in some kind of "one hundred > flowers" campaign. > > Regards > > Bernard > Le 06/10/2021 à 18:03, Jerry LR Chandler a écrit : > > Bernard: > > On Aug 27, 2021, at 5:33 PM, Bernard Morand <morand.bern...@neuf.fr> > wrote: > > It is a good illustration of my feeling about the bad quality level of the > discussions on Peirce-l. > > > My feelings are fully parallel with yours. > > Your articulative description of the styles of communication denotes the > essential nature of the subjective logical fallacies that constrain the > discussions to the very, very narrow interests of some scholars. > > Such styles, while offering a sense of historical truth functions, ignore > the historically historic roots of CSP writings in centuries of earlier > scholarship as well as his extreme breath of knowledge and imagination in > mathematics, logic, physics, chemistry and multiple natural languages, > thereby reducing brilliance to dullness. The consequence is the turning of > lively ideas into deadly boredom. (If not even more deadly complete > mis-representation.) > > What practical steps are necessary to re-enliven our community and our > communications? > > Cheers > > Jerry > > > Postscript for Robert Marty: Do you believe that CSP’s logic is congruent > with Robinson arithmetic? :-). > > > > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > ► PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON > PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to > peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . > ► To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message NOT to PEIRCE-L but to > l...@list.iupui.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE PEIRCE-L in the SUBJECT LINE of the > message and nothing in the body. More at > https://list.iupui.edu/sympa/help/user-signoff.html . > ► PEIRCE-L is owned by THE PEIRCE GROUP; moderated by Gary Richmond; and > co-managed by him and Ben Udell. >
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