Doesn't this exchange confuse the increase in delay with total travel time?  I. e.
ignores an increase in distance traveled?

Gene Coyle

Bill Lear wrote:

> On Thursday, July 4, 2002 at 14:06:16 (-0700) Michael Perelman writes:
> >Help me out here Doug.  Usually, I would be inclined to believe Census figures
> >over something from Texas, but
> >
> >Texas Transportation Institute. 2002. 2002 Urban Mobility Study
> >http://mobility.tamu.edu/ums/
> >"Congestion is growing in areas of every size.  The 75 urban areas
> >in this report range from New York City down to those with 100,000
> >population.  All of the size categories show more severe congestion
> >that lasts a longer period of time and affects more of the
> >transportation network in 2000 than in 1982.  The average annual
> >delay per peak road traveler climbed from 16 hours in 1982 to 62
> >hours in 2000.  And delay over the same period more than quadrupled
> >in areas with less than 1 million people."
> >
> >Is there anybody who sees something other than rapid congestion?  Or
> >am I blinded by living in California.
>
> Note that what Doug claims is not necessarily inconsistent with this.
> Improvement in public transportation may very well entail a
> deterioration in private transportation.  The numbers above, for 250
> days a year (workweek travel) show delay increase from 3.8 minutes per
> day to 14.8 minutes per day.  This doesn't seem like an accurate
> picture of "congestion", if I've interpreted it correctly.
>
> I think what would be useful are figures showing the relative amounts
> spent on private versus public transportation.  I think the ratios are
> usually about 4:1 or more.  In Texas, I imagine they are much higher.
> In NYC, perhaps they approach parity or better?
>
> Bill

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