To avoid over-posting, I conclude by directing all to this post of yours.

There it is.

dms
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jurriaan Bendien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] demo fervor


> > What are you talking about?  Greenspan's positions of responsibility is
to
> > his class, the bourgeoisie.  I would not be in that position.
>
> Then who would you prefer to be in his position ?
>
> Chairman of
> > the FRB is not a "class neutral" position.  He is the bankers' banker.
>
> Agreed.
>
> > Civility?  What exactly is uncivil about calling a bourgeois scam artist
> and
> > ideologue exactly that?
>
> Because in civil society in the Marxian sense, if somebody is an ideologue
> or bourgeois scam artist, we say that s/he is on the basis of demonstrable
> evidence, and the burden of proof is on the accuser. Indeed Ernest Mandel
> wrote once, real Marxists do not "accuse", they "prove" their case. All
> human moral conduct presumes some kind of "no harm" policy which,
> positively, could be stated "do unto others as you would have them do unto
> you" or negatively, "do not do unto others what you would not like them to
> do unto you". An implication of this type of reasoning is, "take care in
> your judgements and partisanship, it may be better not to judge, lest you
be
> judged alike", and we have to live with the consequences of our actions
and
> utterances. On the basis of this idea, consistent and predictable
behaviour
> is possible, as well as a wellformed human personality. If you start
> demonising, disparaging and writing off government people not simply
because
> of what they do but who they are, then you also have to live with the
> consequences of that.
> >
> > Do you actual believe that there is some "supra-class" component of
being
> > chairman of the FRB?
>
> Yes, absolutely. Karl Marx has no special epistemic privilege or advantage
> over Al Greenspan, purely for being Karl Marx.
>
> Jurriaan
>

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