On Jun 22, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Marvin Gandall wrote:
Ravi:

[MG]Concretely, what kind of sacrifices are you demanding of yourself and
others? Have you voluntary renounced future pay increases and asked
your
employer to direct a portion of your salary to agencies whose
objective is
the alleviation of poverty abroad?

This sort of questioning, is I think what constitutes guilt-tripping
at its worst. What one person does in such a situation does not make a
difference. Worse, it makes a loser and a fool of him.
==========================
It was Raghu who challenged "people, even on the Left...to sacrifice a
little for the sake of their ideals", not I...


Marvin,

I don't think Raghu was calling for that... the way I read it and see it: Western workers are already sacrificing some things. The plea is to recognise that some (not all) of this loss is inevitable. This recognition, I think, is somewhat important to get past divisiveness and acrimony generated by these loses, and to find solidarity in overcoming the other part of the losses that have always beset workers everywhere.

The CWA (Computer Workers of America, and also the larger CWA = Communications Workers) members talk of H-1B workers as "scabs" even as the CWA offers Rovian lip service to the contrary... at least the ILWU still has the I in its name!

I can't find your post where you suggest the right approach to gaining solidarity... and I do not disagree with what you write there.

        --ravi

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