Marvin Gandall schreef:
We could have a lively discussion about the explanatory power of the concept of a "labour aristocracy" -a pejorative term describing the more highly skilled and paid stratum of the working class whose "privileged" status in many countries is the result of a long struggle to form trade unions. It originated as a polemical device employed by the disappointed left wing of the labour and socialist movement to explain the failure of the organized proletariat in the West to move beyond nationalism and social democracy to socialist revolution. Revolutionary Marxists attributed the conservatism of Western trade unionists - in particular, their lack of internationalist solidarity with workers in other countries and with oppressed colonial peoples - to their having grown fat and content on a share of profits from imperialism passed on to them by their employers in the form of higher wages and better working and social conditions. This is certainly part of the answer, but it's not a settled question that the success of Western capitalism in delivering a steadily rising standard of living to the working class was wholly or even primarily due to imperialism. Dynamic technological change resulting in higher labour productivity has also to be taken into account. In any case, implicit in the notion of the labour "aristocracy" is that material betterment corrupts. It's a moral category, which, IMO, stands in contradiction to the historical materialist premise, generally supported by the historical record, of cultural advance through economic progress. It draws an exaggerated picture of the condition of skilled workers in the West, even after WW II. None of the people I knew were "aristocrats", or perceived themselves to be such. Most didn't pay attention to foreign policy and, when they did, their impulses were more often than not to be on the side of the oppressed. You would think from the theory that their representative trade unions didn't challenge capitalism and imperialism, and instead eagerly promoted both. That may have been true of American unions at the height of the Cold War, but it was not the general rule, not even in the US. If they only challenged capitalism and imperialism weakly, this had less to do with ideological conviction or the material stake they had in the system, but with a largely realistic appraisal of the balance of forces and limits to their own power in the workplace and political arena. Clearly I don't agree with Matthijs that a "labour aristocracy on one side can only exist at the expense of another side." As Jim Devine earlier suggested, the contemporary "labour aristocracy" includes himself and, by extension, most everyone on this list and their workmates, friends, and neighbours. Matthijs would have to demonstrate that the skilled working class in each country has a material interest in thwarting economic development and the creation of skilled jobs elsewhere, or, more to the point, that concerns about foreign job competition are so pathologically endemic that they lead to support for foreign wars and imperialism. In fact, America's worried "labour aristocrats" are still among the strongest opponents of the Bush administration's foreign policy, and it is preposterous to assert that the growing army of industrial, administrative and professional workers in China, India, and other emergent economies are foreordained to "destroy" their counterparts in the West. Matthijs needs to reexamine the assumptions which have lead him to these - frankly, reactionary - conclusions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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You raise some good objections, but I do want to give a few counterpoints. The first is that I don't think the 'benefits from imperialism' thesis necessarily implies that workers tend to actively support wars and intervention in the abstract, but rather that they focus on domestic parties that 'deliver the goods' in this respect (namely the social-democrats) and are willing to accept their support for imperialism and colonialism in the bargain, even if they don't like it. Indeed morally they may well feel connected to the plight of the Third World, but so do many more open-minded liberals, and even perhaps some conservatives. What matters is what domestic political conclusions they draw from their worldview, and these are not revolutionary either in domestic policy or in foreign policy, and in my opinion this is because they benefit too much from the current world system. You see this often with particularly industrial workers, where a sort of split mind appears with regard to capital; on the one hand they oppose and hate it in their own country, and this inclines them to sympathize with workers in the Third World as well, but on the other hand they fear the competition that those Third World workers represent, and the fact that they have a stake in the global power of their own country. This often manifests itself merely as intuitive protectionism, but also sometimes as racism and xenophobia, or outright support for imperialism abroad. Of course, this remains a question of class consciousness, and I don't mean to say that it is impossible for Western workers to take up an anti-imperialist position. But the tendency for social-democratic parties to engage in imperialist war, combined with the almost automatic mass support these parties have among Western workers (even during such times of war), is something that cannot be ignored. Even now New Labour is vastly more unpopular because of its right-wing domestic shift than because of the Iraq war. Moreover one can argue the Iraq war and Bush's policies are a bad example, because they don't actually benefit these workers at all, unlike some other (and more indirect) forms of imperialism. It does seem the Iraq war only got truly unpopular when the US started losing though.

You're right that merely imperialism alone does not account for the dominant position of the West today, and that the technological and economic changes in the period 1750-1900 aside from colonialism have everything to do with it too, although they are intimately related. But we all know that increases in productivity need not at all necessarily imply increasing living standards - productivity increases before the advent of capitalism as such often hadn't done so at all, and we're probably all familiar with the many applications of technology by capital against the workers, automatization being the best known example. Until the later half of the 19th century there was not much indication at all that the improvements of technology of the Industrial Revolution were making workers better off. But this changed from then on, and the only likely explanation I have ever seen is that this is because colonialism and imperialism in Africa and Asia took off in this period like never before. There seems a direct correlation between the intensity of imperialism and the relative strong growth of living standards among the masses in the West - these increases being exactly largest when imperialism was making its greatest gains (1860-1914 and 1945-1960), and being least when imperialism was weaker or the imperialist powers more busy fighting each other, like during WWI and WWII, the 1930s, and the resurgence of the independence movements in the 1960s-1970s. Aside from its explanatory power re: social-democracy and conservative unionism, I see all this as clear signs that the Western working class materially benefits from imperialism as well.

From this it seems to me to follow that the Western working class, especially those not particularly class conscious or well-informed about the history of the Third World and its struggles, or about the history of colonialism etc., has little to gain and a lot to lose by developmental and independence movements in the Third World, especially those aimed at competing with the West in the economic sphere, such as China, India, and formerly the USSR. Equally so, movements in these countries, and also in even less developed countries in Africa and Latin America, can only truly have a chance at both developing and moving towards some form of socialism by throwing off all Western power in these countries altogether as well as reducing Western power worldwide overall. Now of course on both 'sides' the workers truly do have the same interests in getting rid of capital, which is the cause of the conflict in the first place, but it requires an enormous amount of both historical understanding and foresight, beyond even the interests of the nation-state's development, to see this. And I think if we are realistic we have to acknowledge that both in the US and in Africa most workers _don't_ see this.

Also to clarify: by "destroy" I didn't mean physically destroy, but destroy their status as labour aristocracy, i.e. to reduce them to the level of 'normal' labour without the benefits of imperialism. Basically to the situation vis-a-vis labor they were in in the 1870s, and that Chinese, Filipino, Thai, Kenyan, Colombian etc. workers are in now.

Sorry for the long text but I want to make sure I make myself clear.

Matthijs Krul
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