On Nov 5, 2008, at 11:31 AM, Doug Henwood wrote:
On Nov 5, 2008, at 11:25 AM, ravi wrote:
Black leadership != Black Americans. No?
Sorry for the geek-speak. "!=" means "not equals" or "does not equal".
No, but I wasn't talking about the people that the dominant society
nominates as black leaders - what Adolph Reed calls the race
management elite. I was talking about the vast majority of
progressive activists and regular people.
Ah, okay. Yes, John Lewis was on NBC literally in tears. He is a
genuine leader of the black people. Tavis Smiley, not that genuine a
leader, but definitely an prominent name, called the constitution a
fundamentally racist document, on live TV (NBC or CBS, I forget
which). And then there were, as you point out, less visible non-
establishment activists, too.
The atmosphere in my neighborhood, Fort Greene/Clinton Hill in
Brooklyn, which is about 70% black, is electric. It's moving. I
wonder if the Commissar of the Cornfields would be similarly moved
if he were transported here, or if he would tell them about the
efficient murder of Afghans.
Why not both? If you were to ask Cornel West, I would guess that would
be his reaction. I am with both Julio and Carrol on this one. I think,
perhaps like you (and a bit unlike Lou wondering about the FIRE
revellers), that there is some amount of celebration that is genuine
and warranted (watching Obama hold himself up as the culmination and
end of all struggles, last night, dampened only some of the reluctant
joy I shared with the less reluctant crowds).
You live in Brooklyn? WTF happened. You used to be cool! You might as
well return to Jersey. ;-) Or is Brooklyn the new cool.
I realise I have been hogging list bandwidth the last few days, and I
will shut up a bit, after a response to JimD regarding energy from the
sun.
--ravi
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