ravi wrote:

> Julio's opinion [...] of guarded optimism w.r.t Obama

For the record, I'm not optimistic nor pesimistic with respect to
Obama as an individual.  I'm optimistic about the robustness of the
political sentiment he's tapped into.  Obviously it is is unripe and,
like Jim, I can see that a long series of struggles will very likely
be required for us to shape up.  But I see a pretty good opening for
the left to advance.  How far, it does depend on us to some extent.

On the other hand, although not surprising, it is sobering to me that
an educated person like Jim can so easily and grossly misunderstand me
as to wonder if I'm suggesting that he or anybody else should lie or
apologize for Obama's choices.

A last clarification: I didn't attack Louis.  I dismissed his
phraseology, which is something else.  Louis is perfectly capable of
arguing with himself without anybody's help, thank you very much.
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