On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Gar Lipow <[email protected]> wrote:
> Acceptability of behavior is not the point. The point is that behavior
> on the part of climate scientists no more reflects the truth or
> falsity of their data and analysis, than bad behavior on the part of
> Newton reflects on the truth or falsity of gravity or calculus.  It is
> the classic ad hominem fallacy; "this is false because of your
> character flaws".


This is not a character flaw. It is not like they were caught
shoplifting or something. This goes to the validity of their work.

Truth or falsity is not the only question here; credibility is also
relevant. How do we know that the conclusions these people's results
are not just made up lies, when they clearly have a documented history
of lying and deception?

In Newton's case, such doubts were, in the final analysis, resolved in
the course of a complex historical process that included people
independently verifying his findings. Do you want to wait until
climate science gets independently verified by trustworthy non-liars
someday? If not, then you should care about this scandal.

Finally, comparisons with Newton are always a bit frivolous. The man
was a unique genius.
-raghu.



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