I agree with much of what Judith Curry is saying. 

Einstein is not a good example, however. He had a doctorate in physics from the 
University of Zurich, so he was not an outsider. (Bjorn whozits OTOH, is a 
political scientist, and Lou Dobbs...)

BTW, it was the patent office, not the post office. 

He was also a theorist, not an empirical scientist. More difficult to do, but 
at least he did not depend on the availability of data from others, like 
climate scientists and most economists. 

Otherwise, I find this whole discussion disturbing. I am going to investigate 
and perhaps rewrite some of my lectures. 

>On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 12:42 +0100, Robert Scott Gassler wrote:
>> I remember debating a Prof. Levis Kochen of the University of Washington in 
>> the early 70s over whether secret research at the Pentagon was science. He 
>> said, sure, because it was of high quality (tho he did not say how he knew). 
>> I said absolutely not, because science has to be open and public.
>
>More on Judith Curry:
>
>http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/27/a-climate-scientist-on-climate-skeptics/
><<
>(...)
>What has been noticeably absent so far in the ClimateGate discussion is
>a public reaffirmation by climate researchers of our basic research
>values: the rigors of the scientific method (including reproducibility),
>research integrity and ethics, open minds, and critical thinking. Under
>no circumstances should we ever sacrifice any of these values; the  CRU
>emails, however, appear to violate them.
>(...)
>If climate science is to uphold core research values and be credible to
>public, we need to respond to any critique of data or methodology that
>emerges from analysis by other scientists. Ignoring skeptics coming from
>outside the field is inappropriate; Einstein did not start his research
>career at Princeton, but rather at a post office. I?m not implying that
>climate researchers need to keep defending against the same arguments
>over and over again. Scientists claim that they would never get any
>research done if they had to continuously respond to skeptics. The
>counter to that argument is to make all of your data, metadata, and code
>openly available. Doing this will minimize the time spent responding to
>skeptics; try it! If anyone identifies an actual error in your data or
>methodology, acknowledge it and fix the problem. Doing this would keep
>molehills from growing into mountains that involve congressional
>hearings, lawyers, etc.
>(...)
>>>
>
>Common sense ... and a career at risk!
>
>Laurent
>
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