>> > I don't know which of these two viewpoints is more nonsensical.
>> 
>> My viewpoint is fine.  Carrol's is nonsensical:

His viewpoint is not nonsensical.  You can see his version of "freedom" in 
action in any kindergarten class.  Which is consistent with a common critique 
of certain types of leftists, that they simply do not want to grow up.

David Shemano

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