On Oct 7, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 02:44,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Apple is not forcing you to use the services and software they sell/provide 
>> but Apple's policy is to not license the software to OEMs. You may not like 
>> that, but why would you care since you are admittedly a proponent of free 
>> software and OSX is not free
> 
> That´s why they suck, and that´s why Forbes, and the rest of the Wall
> Street pundits celebrate Steve Jobs... he´s a very succesful creator
> of "walled gardens" with an access fee and propietary technologies
> (iTunes, Quicktime, etc)

Access fee ? You mean you have to pay for the device and you can't steal it ?

And maybe people want to have their garden walled ? Maybe they are sick of 
having crap ware kill their batteries or crash their machines ?

I mean nobody is forcing customers to get the devices. And most people are very 
happy playing their DRM free music (thanks to Apple btw) on their Apple devices 
and sync their stuff with their main machines (Apple or Windows, _that's_ how 
closed the thing is when you think of it...)

iTunes proprietary "technology" ? iTunes is a shopping application. You can use 
any other shopping application you want. Actually you do when you go to Amazon.

> Don´t make go find the URL about Apple oposing the open VP8 codec and
> vouching for the patent-encumebered MPEG4 instead.

Ah, and they were the only one to do that ?

Here again, let's go back to the beginning of the thread: what is so specific 
about Apple's business practices ?


Jean-Christophe Helary
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