Carrol Cox wrote:
> Rosa Luxemburg defined the "final goal" as "state power," specifically
> excluding a "vague conception of socialism" as the final goal. She
> recognized the necessity to view the "present as history" (i.e. from a
> future perspective) but _also_ the need to avoid becoming entangled with
> predictions (claiming a crystal ball); hence the goal that was to make
> present activity intelligible had to be a hypothetical goal, such that
> setting it did not depend on prophecy.

I think that Hal Draper makes a convincing case that both Marx and
Engels thought that discussions and debates about socialist utopias
were appropriate parts of working-class collective self-education.
Engels wrote of "Socialism: Utopian and Scientific," not "Socialism:
Utopian versus Scientific." It was only later Marxists (and
self-styled Marxist-Leninists) who made utopian speculation a taboo.
-- 
Jim Devine / "In science one tries to tell people, in such a way as to
be understood by everyone, something that no one ever knew before. But
in poetry, it's the exact opposite." -- Paul Dirac. Social science is
in the middle.... and usually in a muddle.
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