Carrol Cox <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Incidentally, one source of considerable intellectual confusion is the 
>> continuing Myth that there exists a separate political current called "The 
>> Neocons." But no real change in policy (real being defined as saving lives) 
>> has occurred in the last 20 years.<<

this doesn't make sense. In the post-Cold War era, there has been a
clear division between those US jingoists who believe that the US
should intervene unilaterally in other countries (the neocons) and
those who think that the US power elite must bring in allies to
legitimate US interventions. The debate between these two may not
exist at an extremely high (Olympian) level of abstraction, since they
unite to back US imperialism to the hilt, but it's a lower level
abstraction that helps explain the twists and turns of US foreign
policy.[*]  BTW, the distinction can't be "measured" by looking at the
number of people who died due to US interventions (or saved by their
absence), since that also depends on the situations that interventions
faced.

Robert Naiman wrote:
> It's funny how little intellectual development has taken place in orthodox
> Marxism since 1933. It's like Dorian Gray, frozen in time.

why does Robert insist on name-calling?
-- 
Jim Devine /  "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your
own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.

[*] The split between two similar schools (exemplified by Walter
Cronkite's decision to air his view that the war couldn't be won)
helped change the nature of the US war against Vietnam. Maybe not for
the better for the Vietnamese people, but in the end, strategic
bombing without ground troops doesn't work well at all, so that the
Nixonian strategic shift almost inevitably implied that the NLF and
North Vietnam would win (at least on paper).
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