Jim writes:

"why does Robert insist on name-calling?"

I don't insist on name calling. I do insist that there should be a
consistent standard. I don't see you reproaching anyone who attacks me
personally. Why do you reproach only me, leaving the many personal attacks
on me remarked?

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Jim Devine <[email protected]> wrote:

> Carrol Cox <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Incidentally, one source of considerable intellectual confusion is the
> continuing Myth that there exists a separate political current called "The
> Neocons." But no real change in policy (real being defined as saving lives)
> has occurred in the last 20 years.<<
>
> this doesn't make sense. In the post-Cold War era, there has been a
> clear division between those US jingoists who believe that the US
> should intervene unilaterally in other countries (the neocons) and
> those who think that the US power elite must bring in allies to
> legitimate US interventions. The debate between these two may not
> exist at an extremely high (Olympian) level of abstraction, since they
> unite to back US imperialism to the hilt, but it's a lower level
> abstraction that helps explain the twists and turns of US foreign
> policy.[*]  BTW, the distinction can't be "measured" by looking at the
> number of people who died due to US interventions (or saved by their
> absence), since that also depends on the situations that interventions
> faced.
>
> Robert Naiman wrote:
> > It's funny how little intellectual development has taken place in
> orthodox
> > Marxism since 1933. It's like Dorian Gray, frozen in time.
>
> why does Robert insist on name-calling?
> --
> Jim Devine /  "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your
> own way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.
>
> [*] The split between two similar schools (exemplified by Walter
> Cronkite's decision to air his view that the war couldn't be won)
> helped change the nature of the US war against Vietnam. Maybe not for
> the better for the Vietnamese people, but in the end, strategic
> bombing without ground troops doesn't work well at all, so that the
> Nixonian strategic shift almost inevitably implied that the NLF and
> North Vietnam would win (at least on paper).
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