Agreed, but does not that contradict the assertion that NYC's (or more 
generally, the North's) pre-Civil War prosperity was dependent on the Southern 
slave economy?  After the Civil War, the South was a (relative) economic 
backwater for several generations, but the North did not miss a beat.  So if 
the North thrived without slavery (and without significant economic 
contribution from the South) after the Civil War, why should we conclude that 
the North's wealth was dependent on slavery (and the Southern economy) before 
the Civil War?  Or to put it more accurately, why should we conclude that if 
the South did not have a slave economy before the Civil War, the post-Civil War 
rapid economic expansion and industrialization in the North would not have 
occurred?

David Shemano

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Subject: Re: [Pen-l] Capitalism and slavery

On 4/1/13 1:47 PM, David Shemano wrote:
> The quote within a quote within a quote ends:  'What would New York be 
> without slavery?'"
>
> Well, slavery ended in 1865.  According to Wikipedia, NYC's population 
> went from 813k in 1860 to 1.2m in 1880 to 3.4m in 1900.
> Any dispute that NYC did pretty well in the Gilded Age?  What am I to 
> make of the fact that NYC really took and thrived after the end of 
> slavery?
>
> David Shemano

I imagine that with the end of Reconstruction in 1877 and the descent of 
African-Americans in the Deep South into a status that was free in name only, 
the Great American profit-making machine benefited the privileged everywhere, 
including NY.
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