There was also a strong link between Midwestern farmers & the South.  New 
England's textile industry benefitted from slavery in the south, which provided 
both raw material and markets for it.


Michael Perelman
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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Devine
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 2:42 PM
To: Progressive Economics
Subject: Re: [Pen-l] Capitalism and slavery

yes, I knew about New York City's intimate relationship (as a trading hub and 
financial center) with the slave South during the antebellum period. But New 
York was not the entire North. Even though it was the largest US city in 1860, 
that does not make NYC a microcosm for the entire area from Maine to Minnesota. 
(The mayor of NYC during much of the Civil War was a "copperhead" Democrat, 
i.e., very sympathetic to the South.) Nor does Foner's snapshot of NYC capture 
the long-term trends seen the North as a whole, i.e., the developing links 
between the Northern industry and Midwestern farmers.
Of course NYC didn't "need" slavery! Protected by tariffs after 1861 (and 
helped by war contracts), it could develop in a more industrial direction, away 
from being so dedicated to trade and finance. It could also benefit from the 
debt peonage of the ex-slaves, as Louis points out.

by the way, the Washington op-ed has been posted to pen-l three times.


On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Louis Proyect 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 3/31/13 1:59 PM, Jim Devine wrote:
> The lack of economic connection between the North and South
"In the years just before the Civil War, it was customary for
anti-slavery writers and speakers to refer to New York City as 'the
prolongation of the South' where 'ten thousand cords of interests are
linked with the Southern Slaveholder.' If, by some magic, one of the
countless visitors to the 'World of Tomorrow' had suddenly been
transported back to the New York World's Fair of 1853, he would have had
no difficulty in discovering the reasons for these remarks. Had he
arrived in the city late in June or early in July, he would have noticed
that the lobbies of the Astor, St. Nicholas, Fifth Avenue, St. Denis,
Clarendon, and Metropolitan hotels were thronged with Southern merchants
and planters. The pages of the morning and evening newspapers, he would
have observed, were filled with advertisements addressed to these
Southerners, urging them to visit this or that store, to inspect the
latest assortments of dry goods, hardware, boots and shoes, and other
types of merchandise...


"Had the visitor remained in the city until September, he would have
seen the daily departures of packets for the South, burdened with huge
cargoes of dry goods, boots and shoes, hardware, clothing, liquors and
even fruits, butter, and cheese. The same vessels, he would have
noticed, soon returned to New York, this time loaded with cotton,
tobacco, tar, resin, turpentine, wheat, pork and molasses. By the time
our visitor was ready to return to the Twentieth Century, he should have
been quite ready to agree that New York was 'almost as dependent upon
Southern slavery as Charleston itself.' Perhaps he might even have
agreed with James Dunmore De Bow, who said in reply to a query by the
London Times, asking, 'What would New York be without slavery?'"

--Philip Foner, "Business and Slavery: The New York Merchants and the
Irrepressible Conflict"
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