On Sep 16, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Carrol Cox wrote:
raghu writes: "To me that would mean abstractions like justice, but Carrol
has been known to reject such moralizing notions."
Some day I might try a lengthy response, but I don't have the time now. But
I want to suggest a test of sorts for Raghu.
Iask: why is rape immoral?
Raghu will reply: Because X.
I will respond: Why is X immoral.
He will have to say Because of Xprime.
I will say, Why is Xprime immoral?
And so forth. Try it.

Carrol

This is going at it bass-ackward. The question to start with is: "what sense, what meaning, do you attach to the word *immoral*?" Only once you have agreed on the usage of the word in your common discourse is there any meaning to the question "Is X immoral?"


Shane Mage


This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
 always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
 kindling in measures and going out in measures.

 Herakleitos of Ephesos





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