Regarding the question between coal and labor, I heard an intereview some time ago about the role of coal and social democracy; miners (mostl in Europe) organizaed giving a base for pressuring for labor. The shift to oil meant that fewer workers were needed and they did not physically work as closely as miners.
That might be related to what Paul said. Perhaps he or someone else here recalls the book. On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Gar Lipow <[email protected]> wrote: > Cockshott's point on a related thread remains valid. Coal replace hydro > mainly as a means of strikebreaking. booksandjournals.brillonline.com > \content\journals\10.1163\1569206x-12341279 > > And yes electricity can replace much oil transport - Specifically when it > comes to ground transport. Trains are a mature technology though replace > most car traffic of them would require a reversal of sprawl in many > nations. Given replacement of fossil fuels with renewable electricity, > many unsurvivable practices could be replaced by survivialbe ones. Water > efficiency and desalinzation, capture and composting of organic waste to > close to repair the food->waste->fertilizer loop that was broken with the > dawn of industrialization. > > > On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Perelman, Michael > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> The Corn Laws raised the price of grain relative to people. Suddenly the >> railroad gained an advantage over horse drawn transportation, leading to >> improvements in steam engines ... >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael Perelman >> >> Economics Department >> >> California State University >> >> michael dot perelman at gmail.com >> >> Chico, CA 95929 >> >> 530-898-5321 >> >> fax 530-898-5901 >> >> www.michaelperelman.wordpress.com >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pen-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >> >> > > > -- > Facebook: Gar Lipow Twitter: GarLipow > Solving the Climate Crisis web page: SolvingTheClimateCrisis.com > Grist Blog: http://grist.org/author/gar-lipow/ > Online technical reference: http://www.nohairshirts.com > > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l > > -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 530 898 5321 fax 530 898 5901 http://michaelperelman.wordpress.com
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