Are you thinking of Carbon Democracy by Timothy Mitchell?
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 8:19 PM, michael perelman < [email protected]> wrote: > Regarding the question between coal and labor, I heard an intereview some > time ago about the role of coal and social democracy; miners (mostl in > Europe) organizaed giving a base for pressuring for labor. The shift to > oil meant that fewer workers were needed and they did not physically work > as closely as miners. > > That might be related to what Paul said. Perhaps he or someone else here > recalls the book. > > > On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Gar Lipow <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Cockshott's point on a related thread remains valid. Coal replace hydro >> mainly as a means of strikebreaking. booksandjournals.brillonline.com >> \content\journals\10.1163\1569206x-12341279 >> >> And yes electricity can replace much oil transport - Specifically when it >> comes to ground transport. Trains are a mature technology though replace >> most car traffic of them would require a reversal of sprawl in many >> nations. Given replacement of fossil fuels with renewable electricity, >> many unsurvivable practices could be replaced by survivialbe ones. Water >> efficiency and desalinzation, capture and composting of organic waste to >> close to repair the food->waste->fertilizer loop that was broken with the >> dawn of industrialization. >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Perelman, Michael <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> The Corn Laws raised the price of grain relative to people. Suddenly >>> the railroad gained an advantage over horse drawn transportation, leading >>> to improvements in steam engines ... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Michael Perelman >>> >>> Economics Department >>> >>> California State University >>> >>> michael dot perelman at gmail.com >>> >>> Chico, CA 95929 >>> >>> 530-898-5321 >>> >>> fax 530-898-5901 >>> >>> www.michaelperelman.wordpress.com >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pen-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Facebook: Gar Lipow Twitter: GarLipow >> Solving the Climate Crisis web page: SolvingTheClimateCrisis.com >> Grist Blog: http://grist.org/author/gar-lipow/ >> Online technical reference: http://www.nohairshirts.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pen-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >> >> > > > -- > Michael Perelman > Economics Department > California State University > Chico, CA > 95929 > > 530 898 5321 > fax 530 898 5901 > http://michaelperelman.wordpress.com > > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l > > -- Cheers, Tom Walker (Sandwichman)
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