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On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Tom Walker <[email protected]> wrote: > Are you thinking of Carbon Democracy by Timothy Mitchell? > > > On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 8:19 PM, michael perelman < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Regarding the question between coal and labor, I heard an intereview some >> time ago about the role of coal and social democracy; miners (mostl in >> Europe) organizaed giving a base for pressuring for labor. The shift to >> oil meant that fewer workers were needed and they did not physically work >> as closely as miners. >> >> That might be related to what Paul said. Perhaps he or someone else here >> recalls the book. >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Gar Lipow <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Cockshott's point on a related thread remains valid. Coal replace hydro >>> mainly as a means of strikebreaking. booksandjournals.brillonline.com >>> \content\journals\10.1163\1569206x-12341279 >>> >>> And yes electricity can replace much oil transport - Specifically when >>> it comes to ground transport. Trains are a mature technology though replace >>> most car traffic of them would require a reversal of sprawl in many >>> nations. Given replacement of fossil fuels with renewable electricity, >>> many unsurvivable practices could be replaced by survivialbe ones. Water >>> efficiency and desalinzation, capture and composting of organic waste to >>> close to repair the food->waste->fertilizer loop that was broken with the >>> dawn of industrialization. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Perelman, Michael < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> The Corn Laws raised the price of grain relative to people. Suddenly >>>> the railroad gained an advantage over horse drawn transportation, leading >>>> to improvements in steam engines ... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Michael Perelman >>>> >>>> Economics Department >>>> >>>> California State University >>>> >>>> michael dot perelman at gmail.com >>>> >>>> Chico, CA 95929 >>>> >>>> 530-898-5321 >>>> >>>> fax 530-898-5901 >>>> >>>> www.michaelperelman.wordpress.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> pen-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Facebook: Gar Lipow Twitter: GarLipow >>> Solving the Climate Crisis web page: SolvingTheClimateCrisis.com >>> Grist Blog: http://grist.org/author/gar-lipow/ >>> Online technical reference: http://www.nohairshirts.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pen-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Michael Perelman >> Economics Department >> California State University >> Chico, CA >> 95929 >> >> 530 898 5321 >> fax 530 898 5901 >> http://michaelperelman.wordpress.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pen-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >> >> > > > -- > Cheers, > > Tom Walker (Sandwichman) > > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l > > -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 530 898 5321 fax 530 898 5901 http://michaelperelman.wordpress.com
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