On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Joseph Green <[email protected]>
wrote:

> And so you seem to have concluded that it is wrong to separate decisively
> from the  "liberal/social democratic" forces; instead you accept their
> program. Well, I can understand that some people have become tired of
> trying
> to develop a better left alternative, especially given the present
> theoretical and ideological crisis of the left, but the justification you
> give for this is rather weak.
>
> Is "corn ethanol" a "fundamentally sound program"? Are "carbon offsets" a
> fundamentally sound program? Was the creation of artificial pollution
> markets
> via cap and trade a fundamentally sound program? Are natural gas (which is
> almost entirely fracking in the US) and "clean coal" sound programs? Etc.
>



I call bullshit. Who exactly from the "liberal/social democratic"
establishment is supporting corn ethanol, fracking, or clean coal? Not even
Al Gore as far as I know, and most certainly not the likes of Naomi Klein.
-raghu.
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