On 12/1/06, Angelus Novus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
--- Yoshie Furuhashi quoting Stan Goff:
> Stan writes: "The Marxist doctrinal belief that the
> working class
> represents the potentially liberatory force within
> the primary
> contradiction
One should expect that somebody with such a poor
understanding of Marx would come to reject "Marxism".
Workerism, whether held in strong or weak form, is very common among
Marxists, even those who have consciously rejected it, it seems to me.
From:
http://www.autodidactproject.org/other/howtothink.html
<snip>
According to Marx, the social contradiction which can
only be resolved by revolution is that between the
forces of production and the relations of production.
Feudal and other non-capitalist relations of production were and are
in the way of capital accumulation, though it can make them adapt
themselves to it and make use of them.
Capitalist relations of production, however, never automatically come
into contradiction with capitalist forces of production, or at least
they have not and they are not likely to.
Stan quoted Joaquin:
<blockquote>My friend goes on to say:
"Building a socialist movement for the 21st Century means starting
from the premise, and very palpable reality, that the socialist
movement of the second half of 20th Century, viewed as a whole,
largely DID NOT WORK. And it especially did not work in the places
where Marxist theory says it was SUPPOSED to work, in the advanced
capitalist countries with a fully-developed working class that is the
big majority of the population."</blockquote>
It is about time to think about why Marxism "did not work in the
places where Marxist theory says it was SUPPOSED to work." It may be
that hitherto existing socialist movements were only equipped to
accomplish the task of eradicating feudal and other pre-capitalist
relations of production, consciousness, etc. (outside the West,
socialists generally do this task much better than capitalists). It
may be that, beyond a certain threshold of proletarianization, it
becomes difficult to organize people for _anything_, let alone
socialism, so more capitalist development, beyond a certain thershold,
becomes less likelihood of overcoming the capitalist mode of
production.
--
Yoshie
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