--- Yoshie Furuhashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Capitalist relations of production, however, never > automatically come > into contradiction with capitalist forces of > production, or at least > they have not and they are not likely to.
I agree with this. The Krisis group, with their Toffleresque arguments about the microelectronic revolution, argue otherwise. I think they have one foot firmly planted in traditional Marxism. > It is about time to think about why Marxism "did not > work in the > places where Marxist theory says it was SUPPOSED to > work." Yes! Starting with Marx_ism_! It may be > that hitherto existing socialist movements were only > equipped to > accomplish the task of eradicating feudal and other > pre-capitalist > relations of production, consciousness, etc. Yes, yes! cf. Peter Klein's _Die Illusion von 1917_ and Kurz's _Der Kollaps der Modernisierung_ > It > may be that, beyond a certain threshold of > proletarianization, it > becomes difficult to organize people for _anything_, > let alone > socialism, so more capitalist development, beyond a > certain thershold, > becomes less likelihood of overcoming the capitalist > mode of > production. And that's why, despite the fact that your secondary consideratins on Ahmadinejad are wrong wrong wrong, your primary point about the irrelevance of the left in the advanced commodity-producing societies is on target. What to do about that, I have no idea. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
