--- Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, as I tried to point out already, Marx's
> comments on slavery
> appeared mostly in the form of oberta dictum. And if
> you define
> capitalism as requiring a free market in labor, then
> Nazi Germany and
> apartheid South Africa were not capitalist
> countries. I find that
> most unlikely.

_Capital_ is an abstract depiction of the *capitalist*
features of capitalism.  That is, a depiction of the
social relationships that mark off capitalism as
distinct from other systems of social relationships.

Relationships, not definitons.  Relationships, not
definitions.  Relationships, not defintions.  Repeat.

The system of free wage labour is essential to those
relationships.  Ricardo and Smith had already arrived
at value theories based upon the magnitude of human
embodied (bad word choice) in a commodity.  Marx's
innovation was investigating the ensemble of social
relationships in which human labour power is
manifested in commodity form.

If none of this is important to you, you would be much
better off in joining Andre Gunder Frank and rejecting
the category "capitalism" altogether.  That is the
only consistent conclusion for the sort of argument
you are advocating.





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