On Dec 18, 2007, at 8:13 PM, Andy Armstrong wrote:

On 19 Dec 2007, at 02:05, chromatic wrote:
Sure - but I'd have expected that to be perceived as a specific
problem in an otherwise valuable system. It's not a rational reason to
right off automated testing as a whole surely?

That depends on the ratio of useless to useful results.

Presumably the false negative rate achieved by the best modules is a measure of how noisy the smoking system is. Given that the cleanest modules regularly get a <1% FAIL rate over many tens of reports it's not a huge reach to suggest that any module should be able to get close to that. So I'd expect an author who was seeing a lot of failures to look around on CPAN a little and observe that other people's tests are doing better than theirs and then maybe wonder whether it's their code that is at fault.

Does anyone know how the false negative rates compare for cpan-tester smokers vs. CPAN::Reporter users? I've found the former to be enormously valuable for cross-platform testing (especially David Cantrell and Slaven Rezic), but I have seen very little feedback via the latter at all.

Chris

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