Hi Daniel,

great work on the logos!  Are we voting for our favourites now?  And do people 
like me who are _almost_ PDL users (but never quite got round to it) get a vote 
too?

My favourite is the simple logo [P] -- distinctive, quite elegant and works as 
an icon, too.  [R] or [S] could be used for large icons e.g. on the entry page 
of the Web site.  In this case, I have a slight preference for the camel in 
[S], wearing the typical relaxed and satisfied smile of a PDL user. :)

[U] might also work with some tweaking, but unlike [P] it isn't easily 
recognised by colour or shape.


>> 1. It should not infringe on any existing mark. Use of a camel in
>> conjunction with Perl is a protected trademark of O'Reilly. So, right
>> of that bat, all images that use a camel are out.
> 
> I disagree. First, O'Reilly is very flexible with the use of the camel
> symbol in connection to Perl. Second, I doubt that they automatically
> have the rights to every possible quadruped (the camel silhouette I've
> used is different from the drawing in "Programming Perl").

I'm quite sure that the use of any camel would infringe O'Reilly's trademark 
rights -- remember how Apple was sued by Apple Records, even before they 
entered the music market?  This kind of trademark protection is usually not 
about a specific design, but about a concept (such as an apple or a camel) 
associated with a product.

So you'd probably have to get permission from O'Reilly to use a camel as part 
of the PDL logo, but I understand they normally don't refuse such requests 
(esp. from non-profit projects).  No a priori argument against logos involving 
camels, therefore.

Best,
Stefan


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