On Sep 9, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Peter Saint-Andre <[email protected]> wrote:
> Signed PGP part > On 9/9/13 9:58 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote: > > > So, this is a call for: > > > > a) suggestions as to how to best use some face-to-face time, b) > > agenda proposals, and, > > We'll want to use the high-bandwidth time wisely, and we know that > security-related discussions (well, all discussions) can easily go off > track. Staying focused on the core issues, and on problems that might > have engineering solutions, will be paramount. That makes me wonder if a second session should be allocated for the obligatory hand-wringing and mic-ranting, or if we're planning to do that at the plenary level. You know http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model ... Denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance. We don't have a surveillance problem. I'm angry that we've been surveilled and that they planted people in our organization to make it easier. Maybe if we just use TLS everywhere, it'll be OK. This isn't going to work, and I'm sad and giving up on the Internet. Oh well, the NSA reads my email, so I don't have to. Beer! -- Dean
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