One approach to focus the discussion is to limit it to what the IETF can do. Within that category one could also focus on specific applications to make it (a) down-to-earth and (b) have a bit time for preparation.

On 10.09.2013 21:34, Dave Crocker wrote:
On 9/10/2013 11:03 AM, Scott Brim wrote:
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Peter Saint-Andre<[email protected]>
wrote:
Staying focused on the core issues, and on problems that might
have engineering solutions, will be paramount.
This is a scope question. How do we decide what to focus on?


1. I agree with Peter's call for focusing on core issues

2. I'll suggest that deciding on what those are is, itself, the most
core issue.

Much of what has been getting posted pertains to component mechanisms.
They are pretty obviously useful mechanisms, but we have no foundation
for determining whether they are relevant -- or more importantly,
essential -- to the scope of perpass work.

We need to make sure that we are not merely looking for our keys under
the lamppost.

d/

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