Open source is certainly only one market, although important in the security context when I think about all the libraries.

Needless to say that many products are not open source and we would want to encourage them to get better as well (as we did with the IPv6 day).

Maybe we need a "Crypto Day".


On 10.09.2013 22:13, Marc Blanchet wrote:
my take on this debate is that there is much more to do _not in the protocols 
specifications_ than enhancing what our protocol specs. Deployment, 
implementations, etc... shall be more targetted to be enhanced.  Therefore I 
agree with your idea.  And opensource is just one market.

Marc.

Le 2013-09-10 à 15:02, Hannes Tschofenig<[email protected]>  a écrit :

Hi all,

as I replied to Dave about the scope of the discussions at the next IETF 
meeting I was wondering about the following issue.

Bruce Schneier asked the IETF for help and, as we have noticed in the 
discussions there are certain limits to what we can do in the IETF (as a 
standardization body).

The wider Internet community, however, has somewhat different options and we 
have in other cases reached out to that community to impact the deployment of 
Internet technologies. A recent example is the IPv6 day.

Why should we turn around and ask the Internet community to help us out with 
some of the issues we cannot solve alone, such as those related to the 
deployment of various security extensions.

I am sure many open source developers are at this moment trying to figure out 
what they should be improving but they may not have the same level of expertise 
as we have.

Needless to say that we first have to figure out what we want to ask for and 
this requires some investigation in what is currently available (like Yaron did 
for S/MIME and Jim Gettys did for his DNSSEC case).

What do you think?

Ciao
Hannes
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