Critical aspects of the World IPv6 Day/Launch activity were clear goals as to what it meant to be "in", as well as independent measurement of those that signed up (at first AAAAs in the DNS, later 1% traffic from an ISP as measured by a set of content providers). The nature of what's being considered here might make this tricky (e.g., monitoring of techniques that themselves are aimed at averting the ability to monitor!). In any case, if we try and do something like this and want to follow the World Day/Launch model, I'd encourage thinking about what the metrics and analysis should be.
- Mark PS. As someone working to see IPv6 deployed, increased use of SSL is a boost as https leads to more global IPv4 address demand and more need for IPv6. Go crypto. On Sep 10, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > Open source is certainly only one market, although important in the security > context when I think about all the libraries. > > Needless to say that many products are not open source and we would want to > encourage them to get better as well (as we did with the IPv6 day). > > Maybe we need a "Crypto Day". > > > On 10.09.2013 22:13, Marc Blanchet wrote: >> my take on this debate is that there is much more to do _not in the >> protocols specifications_ than enhancing what our protocol specs. >> Deployment, implementations, etc... shall be more targetted to be enhanced. >> Therefore I agree with your idea. And opensource is just one market. >> >> Marc. >> >> Le 2013-09-10 à 15:02, Hannes Tschofenig<[email protected]> a écrit >> : >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> as I replied to Dave about the scope of the discussions at the next IETF >>> meeting I was wondering about the following issue. >>> >>> Bruce Schneier asked the IETF for help and, as we have noticed in the >>> discussions there are certain limits to what we can do in the IETF (as a >>> standardization body). >>> >>> The wider Internet community, however, has somewhat different options and >>> we have in other cases reached out to that community to impact the >>> deployment of Internet technologies. A recent example is the IPv6 day. >>> >>> Why should we turn around and ask the Internet community to help us out >>> with some of the issues we cannot solve alone, such as those related to the >>> deployment of various security extensions. >>> >>> I am sure many open source developers are at this moment trying to figure >>> out what they should be improving but they may not have the same level of >>> expertise as we have. >>> >>> Needless to say that we first have to figure out what we want to ask for >>> and this requires some investigation in what is currently available (like >>> Yaron did for S/MIME and Jim Gettys did for his DNSSEC case). >>> >>> What do you think? >>> >>> Ciao >>> Hannes >>> _______________________________________________ >>> perpass mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass >> >> _______________________________________________ >> perpass mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass > > _______________________________________________ > perpass mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass _______________________________________________ perpass mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass
